‘Is there a chance the track could bend?’: CB2 residents can weigh in on streetcar routes tonight, CB6 Thursday

Oh, Jay there: This publicity image envisages a streetcar on Jay street Downtown.
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Downtown-area residents can weigh in on the planned routes for Mayor DeBlasio’s $2.5-billion streetcar when city officials visit Community Board 2’s Transportation Committee meeting at Long Island University on Tuesday night, and Community Board 6’s committee at the Miccio Center in Red Hook on Thursday.

The city recently released maps of potential routes, including Community Board 2 streets in Fort Greene, Dumbo, Downtown, Brooklyn Heights, and Boerum Hill, and Community Board 6 thoroughfares in Red Hook, Cobble Hill, and the Columbia Street Waterfront District.

Officials say they want to give the trolley right-of-way on as much of the system as possible, so some of the marked streets may end up being closed to vehicle traffic and losing parking spaces to accommodate the tram.

The city says the so-called Brooklyn-Queens Connector will connect transit deserts like Red Hook with job hubs such as the Navy Yard and Industry City, but critics at previous community forums have vented concerns that the pricey Sunset Park-to-Queens system will clog up traffic, replace parking spaces, gentrify the area, and be designed to benefit the wealthy living along the waterfront and the developers who are trying to sell them condominiums.

Community Board 2’s transportation committee will take comments and questions from committee members first and then open up the floor for public comment on the issue.

Community Board 2 Transportation Committee Meeting at Long Island University’s Metcalfe Hall, Jonas Board Room (1 University Plaza at Flatbush and DeKalb avenues Downtown). Nov. 15 at 6 pm.

Community Board 2 Transportation Committee Meeting at the Miccio Center (110 W. Ninth St. between Henry and Clinton streets in Red Hook). Nov. 17 at 6:30 pm.

Reach reporter Lauren Gill at or by calling (718) 260–2511. Follow her on Twitter @laurenk_gill
Updated 10:17 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Jim from Cobble Hill says:
Simpsons did it.
Nov. 11, 2016, 7:40 am
Pedro Valdez Rivera Jr. from BS, BK, NY, US says:
With the deal of the 421-a tax abatement going through by Governor Cuomo, I am not surprised that the BQX will be rapidly go through by the governmental bureaucracy of the NYC EDC. In addition, this could resulted in rapid gentrification along the Brooklyn-Queens Waterfront through the creation of more commercial and residential development buildings. Furthermore, this could displace low-income families who cannot afford the rising cost of living, including rent. It's a Catch-22: Both a blessing and a curse, to say the least.
Nov. 11, 2016, 9:30 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I still think it would be better to just kill this plan altogether rather than keep bringing it up especially when it's found to be a boondoggle.
Nov. 11, 2016, 3:28 pm
Tyler from pps says:
Why do you keep popping up, Tal, since you're also a boondoggle. (That's the correct word, right?)
Nov. 11, 2016, 5:46 pm
Charles from Bklyn says:
I can't believe they are making us pay for our own gentrification. If your not super rich your little people.
Nov. 11, 2016, 6:25 pm
Hreidmar from Bensonhurst says:
@Tyler: 'Why do you keep popping up, Tal, since you're also a boondoggle. (That's the correct word, right?)'
Did you at least get a high school education?
If not, and you can use the internet, ever think of looking up a word you might be confused about?
Maybe 'Tal' keeps 'popping-up' becuase he knows that a boondoggle can't be a person, but is the def of a bureaucratic, expensive, graft-laden project doomed to fail.
In other words, a not-thought-out plan doomed to fail, which is exactly what this damn thing is.
And it is amazing to me that the enlightened people of the 'nabes through which this damn thing is going to be rammed through don't seem to care much.
Nov. 12, 2016, 1 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Tyler, instead of resorting to personal attacks at me, how about you tell me why this streetcar route is a good idea. If attacking me is all you can say, that it probably is a bad idea. The truth is that both trolleys and streetcars in NYC were pretty much obsolete when the subways and buses came especially when they were found to move a lot faster, and that would have been the case even if GM didn't buy them out by removing the tracks to promote buses to use their gasoline. The truth is that most of NYC aren't wide enough to support this as other cities that do have that space. Another thing is that when they were omnipresent, they represented a time when the city's population was a lot smaller and not as much developed then. Also, the tracks were removed because it was found that a number of people were getting hit by the trolleys as the population increased, which lead the a citywide law that would abolish pretty much all at grade rails making many of them either below or above grade to prevent such accidents for occurring.
Nov. 12, 2016, 5:10 pm
Bertha from Bay Ridge says:
Why not just build a tunnel and run a new subway line on that route that would go a lot faster? I don't understand why this would be better than a subway, which doesn't have to deal with the streets. If not a subway, then an el. Some people don't like els, but I don't mind them, and think they give character to neighborhoods.

They made a big mistake in taking down the Myrtle Avenue el, which today would have a lot of riders, taking pressure off other lines. For that matter, the Lexington Avenue el, which ran from Broadway and Gates Ave. in Bed-Stuy to Greene Ave. before it connected with Myrtle Ave. el in Clinton Hill, should never have been torn down.

Likewise, it was a mistake to tear down the Culver Shuttle el in 1975. It ran between the Ditmas Ave. F stop and the 9th Ave. D stop.

The Brooklyn-Queens Waterfront Connector should be a subway, not a streetcar. If a subway is too expensive -- I think it would pay for itself in greatly increased riders -- then let's go back to building elevated lines. They also beat the pants off a streetcar!
Nov. 12, 2016, 9:07 pm
TOM from Sunset Park says:
I took the Myrtle Ave. El from Bed/Stuy to downtown Brooklyn(now Metrotech) in the afternoon when I was in high school. It was fun. Wooden cars, large open windows and the swaying structure gave a small thrill and a sense of history. It would be perfect to get people to and from the Navy Yard today. Slow like this tram but convenient.
Nov. 13, 2016, 6:51 pm
Tyler from pps says:
I guess Hreidmar doesn't get jokes...

But I'm glad Tal has become a trolley and streetcar expert! Wait. "Expert" isn't the right word. Uggh. Hey, Hreidmar, where do I find out the meanings of words?
Nov. 14, 2016, 11:23 am
Peter from Brooklyn says:
Gotta love that a man-child troll living in his parent's basement in Westchester is the expert on NYC transportation policy.
Nov. 16, 2016, 9:16 am

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