Luxury Williamsburg developer already promising L-train replacement shuttle

Shuttle diplomacy: Luxury developer already promising L-train replacement service

Riding high: Lucky tenants of luxury high-rise One North Fourth Place in Williamsburg will get a free shuttle service to the closest J, M, Z station if L train service freezes for long-term repairs.
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Yoga rooms and rooftop pools be damned — the next must-have amenity for luxury Williamsburg apartment buildings could be subway access.

The developer of a new waterfront complex is already promising to shuttle its charmed residents to nearby subway stations if the Metropolitan Transportation Authority goes ahead with plans to stop L-train service to Manhattan for years of repairs in 2018, in an effort to dissuade the tenants from defecting elsewhere.

“We decided the best thing we could do is to be proactive and position us in the best possible way both for existing tenants and filling the building up,” said Steven Charno of Douglaston Development, which opened One North Fourth Place near the river last year.

The North Fifth Street Pier-adjacent high-rise — where pads range between $3,500 and $8,500 — says it will drive residents between its front door and the nearest JMZ station at Marcy Avenue during rush-hour if the transit agency follows through on reports that it will close the L-train tunnel to fix damage caused by Hurricane Sandy.

Real-estate brokers claim the spectre of years without the service to the neighboring borough is already stopping straphangers from moving in along the line, and Charno says the company wanted to offer some early assurance.

“I think everybody is worried about how they’ll get to work,” he said. “We decided very early on that if we could avoid our residents having any anxiety about that, why wouldn’t we?”

Agency honchos say they need to fix up the two concrete L-train tubes that run between the boroughs, which were ripped apart by the 2012 superstorm, but still haven’t announced exactly how it will do so.

The authority may freeze service entirely for a two-year construction binge, fix one tube at a time for around four years, or perform night and weekend repairs that could drag on for seven years. It has already ruled out building a new tunnel altogether.

Officials are expected to offer some answers in a meeting next month.

Reach reporter Allegra Hobbs at or by calling (718) 260–8312.
Updated 10:17 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Pedro Valdez Rivera Jr. from Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, New York, United States says:
These real estate developers shouldn't jump the gun and jump into conclusions about the contingency plans for the L Train shutdown under the East River. It takes a positive communication between the general public and the MTA in the next several months.
March 2, 2016, 9:19 am
Rob from NY says:
Governor Cuomo runs the MTA, and he needs to be thinking much far more strategically about our transportation needs. Every move has far-reaching consequences.

Starting with the infamous G train, which we will need to fix when the L shuts down. The G suffers from frequency and capacity constraints, and the cure is for Cuomo to reactivate an abandoned rail line in Queens. Sadly, Cuomo wants to turn that rail line into a park:
March 2, 2016, 2:15 pm
TOM from Sunset Park Lower says:
What's the problem? Nothing bad will happen for two years, so you have time to figure this out. We along 4th Avenue did when the Montague Street was closed after Sandy and again later, and for longer, for the extensive repair work(originally did it after 9/11). It worked out for us because we calmly planned ahead.

Sit down with a map of the city and look to see how you will get to work and home every workday with the minimal trouble. Be loose this might mean walking or biking to another subway route. You might have to travel AWAY from the East River to make that connection. Close to a bridge? You might walk or bike over it. Forget buses or cars; everyone else will be in front of you on the road. There is not enough capacity on the bridges.

When you think you have a viable route try doing it on a weekend and at your leisure to see if it fits your needs. If it works for you, relax. Tell you boss. If not, back to the map.
March 3, 2016, 1:04 pm
b from gp says:
The JMZ is pretty packed to capacity during rush hour, several stops into Brooklyn. The trouble is all the various upzones weren't considered cumulatively. And frankly, I don't think any of the politicians bothered to read Environmental Impact Statements which are biased anyway because they are paid for by whomever wants to make the changes. Cough cough, increased rainfall is in the future, not the average rainfall going back to 1869!

EnTergy to hell.
March 4, 2016, 3:12 am
b from gp says:
That CookFox building is such a design disappointment. Wtf happened? Greedy developer is what. The Bank of America bldg turned out pretty okish. The irony isn't lost on me. I've still a mild Aalto weakness for Fox Fowle's 767 3rd Ave. even though the zoning manipulation created that weird leftover space. I know. I know it's Midtown 3rd, they're all mostly grotesque and it's a horrible place to be. At least they made efforts with the Dursts to develop sustainable building methods.
March 4, 2016, 3:42 am
b from gp says:
Alright, so they picked the year 1988 average rainfall to base their negative impact on... Sounds semi reasonable, right? Not so, because 1988 is more like 1951. At least they could have made the half concerted effort and gone with say 1979!

I think the plan is, I mean if there really is anything halfway strategic about this oversight, it would be they want to build the f out of the waterfront, so the feds would be forced to invest $$$ to barricade it from flooding from all sides, cuz you know that sht will come not just from the ocean and bay areas, but all down stream via the Hudson. And where does that leave India Point? Or do people really believe their increased urban density Silver LEED boyscout badge will really save the day, by curtailing emissions? Not if we run out of room!
March 4, 2016, 9:47 am
b from gp says:
Being repeatedly buried alive isn't just a loss of vision.
March 4, 2016, 10:05 am
b from gp says:
Meanwhile the EPA says do not worry about your water table being contaminated, because you have happy clean water coming from elsewhere! Um hello, 3rd grade science taught me about something called The Water Cycle..?
March 4, 2016, 10:25 am
b from gp says:
I think I love the Bank of America, at least they had the foresight to plan for the future!
March 4, 2016, 10:40 am
b from gp says:
Here's another tear to suck on, for whomever cares to read gutter comments... Corporate interiors in the city are gutted faster than ever.

(contrary to my above comment, I do not support predatory lending, particularly with regards to seniors)
March 4, 2016, 11:56 am

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