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Williamsburgers: Surprise Citi Bike station ruining parking, business

Park it: Phil Fontana of Tony’s Pizzeria claims his business is suffering because of a poorly placed Citi Bike Station taking up space outside his storefront on Graham Avenue.
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It is hell on wheels.

The city must rip out a new Citi Bike station that is crippling local businesses and snarling traffic at a busy Williamsburg intersection, say nearby residents and business owners.

“It’s created havoc on this block,” said Vincent Gangone, the owner of medical supply store Salerno Surgical Supplies, which is three doors down from the troublesome bike-rental dock at the corner of Graham Avenue and Conselyea Street.

Local businesses say the one-month-old station replaced much-needed parking space on the heavily trafficked commercial stretch, and the ensuing shortage is driving away customers and creating traffic jams that back up the streets for several blocks.

“There are people who used to park their car, run in, and run out,” said Phil Fontana of Tony’s Pizzeria, who claims his patrons now constantly bemoan the lack of parking. “Now you see less of that. Now they go around twice and they just go home.”

Gangone said the parking paucity is especially damaging to his business, because most of his clientele are not able-bodied and need to park close by.

“There are a lot of people in wheelchairs and a lot of people who can’t walk too well, and there’s no place to find spots,” he said.

Locals say the city never consulted them about the bike berth, which is one of around 90 new Citi Bike docks the city installed across Williamsburg, Greenpoint, and Bedford–Stuyvesant last month.

Transportation officials told residents the terminal would be at Metropolitan Avenue and Humboldt Street when it shared upcoming station locations at a community board meeting in March. But a construction site usurped that spot in the intervening months, so the city decided to slide it over a few blocks — and residents and store owners say they didn’t find out until the blue bikes showed up in August.

The Department of Transportation claims its hands were tied — it is obligated to find new locations when planned sites fall through, and the intersection at Graham and Conselyea was the only viable alternative that fit city guidelines and worked with the local Citi Bike network, a spokesperson said.

But the disgruntled community members say the city should have asked their opinion beforehand, and hasn’t responded to their complaints since.

“We asked the city Department of Transportation, if we had any issues with certain stations, to please respect the community and have dialogue with us and to find alternative locations, and that didn’t happen,” said Karen Nieves, the outgoing transportation committee chief for Community Board 1.

The community board says it is now going over the department’s head — panel members voted unanimously at a meeting last Wednesday to send a letter to Mayor DeBlasio demanding he remove the station, and are drafting a second letter raising complaints about a handful of other docks in the neighborhood they say have been causing similar issues.

The transportation department chose many of the station sites based a series of community meetings it held in 2013, but the residents say so much time has passed that the city now needs to reevaluate all of the locales and ask nearby businesses how they have been affected.

The city says it is still reviewing all letters and e-mails about the new stations.

Reach reporter Allegra Hobbs at ahobbs@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260–8312.
Updated 10:17 pm, July 9, 2018: CB1's outgoing transportation committee chief is Karen Nieves, not Katherine Nieves as we originally wrote.
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Reasonable discourse

Native from A hill says:
i find it hard to feel bad for people driving in Brooklyn these days. If you're disabled or old, there's access a ride. If you're able bodied, take the train or walk. If you're disabled or elderly you probably shouldn't be driving anyway, this city is merciless and there are more pedestrians than eve
Sept. 14, 2015, 2:13 am
Bklynite from Brooklyn says:
Whiners.
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:17 am
NYer from Kings County says:
Really? If your Williamsburg-based business is failing, I can guarantee you it's not because of two on-street car parking spaces being replaced by 30 on-street bike parking spaces. Why waste ink on these whiny losers?
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:27 am
Mike from Williamsburg says:
I'd like to welcome Vincent Gangone to the neighborhood. As a newcomer, he should be forgiven for not knowing that there was a lot of traffic before the Citibike stations were installed last month.

Four lanes of Graham Ave are dedicated to cars. If taking away one of those lanes for half a block causes the whole neighborhood to shut down, maybe we need to rethink the whole car-centric system and get one that works.

Like most Brooklyn residents, I don't even drive a car. Yet the ease of finding a parking space outside Salerno Drugs has stuck out even to me. I think Gangone's customers don't actually have trouble parking (and riding their wheelchairs from several blocks away) but rather he is pulling this excuse out of his thin air because he just doesn't like bikes.
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:42 am
Mike from Williamsburg says:
P.S. the former transportation chair's name is Karen Nieves, not Katherine.
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:43 am
boof from brooklyn says:
Havoc!

A question, though. How many people (Citi Bike members) can use that space simultaneously now, compared to the one driver at a time from before? How many of these new-space-users shop at local businesses?
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:56 am
Brian Van from Gramercy Park says:
How about we install some handicapped parking in front of the medical supply store & we call it a compromise? That actually seems like a smart solution here that should have been done well before the dock installation (as in, unrelated to it).

I'm not sure I can advocate disrupting transportation infrastructure for the other "concerns", like people being annoyed at how long it takes to find parking around a pizza joint. I think if they offer a 10% discount to customers who arrive by bicycle, they might find any lost business more than replaced.
Sept. 14, 2015, 9:07 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Does anyone know the term confirmation bias?!

So, two parking spots have been converted to bicycle parking. And the lack of parking is blamed on the bicycle parking... ya know, not the actual cause -- ALL OF THE CARS.

I'll put it another way. These whining customers couldn't find parking on this block before either. They just now have something 'new' to blame.

If this bike dock is moved, the DOT and the Community Boards need to take down all of these whiners names and put a GPS tracker on their cars to find out where they park *after* the dock is moved. Chances are, it won't be in these two magical parking spots that are somehow the difference between rainbows/puppy dogs/heaven on earth and utter collapse of the neighborhood's economy/quality of life.
Sept. 14, 2015, 9:17 am
John from Graham ave says:
It sucks us locals may soon have to eat the wood fired pizza directly across the street. And the one person a week that needs a replacement part for their wheelchair will have to order off Amazon.

Oh wait...those things already happened.
Sept. 14, 2015, 9:43 am
businessleader from BK says:
Sounds like the medical supply place would do good business offering deliveries. Heck, they don't even have to buy their own bike.
Sept. 14, 2015, 10:15 am
jimmy from williamsburg says:
picking up pizza? you can double park. in fact, you can double park in front of the citibike docks if you really are that lazy. and you can do that and no one will care because unlike when you block someone else's car in by double parking, you're not going to restrict anyone from getting in or out of where they need to go.

the station is heavily used: it is located next to a subway station and people accessing that subway station from areas north and east no longer have to rely on the crappy b43. you should be thankful the DOT didn't install the citibikes the ENTIRE LENGTH of the block!

also, try walking a little bit, the surgeon general says it's good for you. especially if you're picking up pizza.
Sept. 14, 2015, 10:27 am
James from Williamsburg says:
I live and drive in the area and I can't believe this hyperbolic nonsense and it's very disappointing that Brooklyn Paper would publish it. I am one of the very customers that Phil Fontana is talking about. I would park in front and run in for a slice. Now I simply park around the corner and walk a few yards. Get a grip man! And besides, I go to Carmine's across the street because it has way better pizza than Tony's!
This station is in a perfect spot, right outside the L train stop. I am delighted with it's addition. I can now cycle to Greenpoint whereas in the past I would have been lazy and driven.
Sept. 14, 2015, 11:28 am
Southerner from Williamsburg says:
It's the cars that are taking up most of the space, not the bikes. Get over yourselves.
Sept. 14, 2015, 12:25 pm
Claudia Cardinale from Williamsburg says:
Was this CitiBike station is responsible for the dead nun lying on Conselyea Street this morning?
Sept. 14, 2015, 12:25 pm
Alex from Park Slope says:
I can't even take the ridiculous hyperbole from these people. And I REALLY can't take the Brooklyn Paper just accepting it as fact rather than challenging it for the entitled whining that it is.
Sept. 14, 2015, 12:46 pm
Guido from Bay Ridge says:
Our most valuable resource - Free Parking.
Sept. 14, 2015, 12:50 pm
Rob from Greenpoint says:
This is more fact-free whining inspired by the retrograde "leaders" of Community Board 1.
Sept. 14, 2015, 1:13 pm
John Wasserman from Prospect Heights says:
I hate to say this. I don't even know if I should. I would, however like to take this moment to thank you for listening.
John Wasserman/United States of America
Sept. 14, 2015, 1:29 pm
russell from greenpoint says:
James, both carmines AND tony's pizza is disappointing at best. i don' t know if it's the high rent or what, but cheap sauce, cheap mozzarella, and cookie cutter pre-ordered crust makes ——ty pizza. As far as the citibank bicycles, who cares. it takes up 4 spaces.
Sept. 14, 2015, 3:57 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
To those who insist the bikes are heavily used... um, no, nor the one in Greenpoint. Both racks are usually about 80 - 90 % full. And in the winter months?
Parking is a problem in Williamsburg and becoming more so in Greenpoint.
The fortunate backside of the gentrification, however, is that the money people can afford cars and will want their parking.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:27 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Matt -- It's not the 'gentrifiers' that are freaking out about 2-4 parking spaces, is it?

And why do you think the racks being 'full' means they're not being used (or will be used). Does a full non-Citibike bike rack mean bicycles are not being used?

I guess, by that logic, the street parking is always full so cars are not used either.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:36 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
When all of these hipsters who bunk up three or more roommates in apts. they can barely afford to split are priced out, the parking will come back.
The high-risers don't want to dottle around on streets that are barely big enough for auto traffic like they are in Amsterdam (the just actually go to Amsterdam).
My favorite so far is the biker rider going the wrong way on a one way street that yells at a car trying to parallel park, "You are in the bike lane!" and the biker rider that threw a McDonalds soda cup at the Chinese food deliver guy going the wrong way in a bike lane. When these trash heads are gone, the parking will come back.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:39 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
"E-bikes" are technically illegal in all of NY state. The NYPD, apparently, has no idea. But now you can buy E-bikes that do over 30 mph. I can't wait to see the bike riders response to folks on these things in the bike lane. Should be fun fun.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:41 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
By the way, this Phil Fontana idiot should really look at his customer base and think really really really carefully if he wants to come across as a business "unfriendly" to cyclists. He may actually find his business *actually* starting to suffer.

Choice is to alienate the vast majority of the neighborhood that doesn't own/use a car by siding with some whiny idiots that will complain about anything... OR you can see that the current and future customers see the subway and bicycle access as far more important than 3 or 4 parking spots.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:50 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Oh, Matt. You're adorable.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:51 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Jimmy,
You can't store a car in your apartment or on the sidewalk.
Sept. 14, 2015, 4:54 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
zip car, car2go, Enterprise car share etc. Gonna need parking.
An electric scooter is the way to go, needs little parking space and can store it in your apt. But, again, winter months you gonna need a car.
Sept. 14, 2015, 5 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
No, you can store your car in a garage or parking lot. Did you have a point? Do you think you have some sort of "right" to free storage of your personal property on the street?!!

(The streets paid for by everyone that pays sales tax, property tax, business tax and other taxes that go into the City coffers... none of which are special taxes paid by car owners. By the way, Matt, I own a car. I drive a lot. I also know that when I drive, I'm not entitled to anything.... including the city clearing a path to Phil Fontana's pizza shop.)
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:02 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
This Gangone guy's real problem is that he has neither beard nor trust fund. He does not even grow the mushrooms for his pizza on his rooftop. SMDH
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:08 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Not one tattoo, not even a peace sign.
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:08 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
I still can't get over this...

Phil Fontana's shop is directly adjacent to (a) a significant subway station, (b) two major bus routes and (c) a dense neighborhood full of people that don't drive. But he's worried about a bike rack destroying his business?!?!

(By the way, Matt, this Citibike dock is currently only 50% full.... so much for "always" being 80-90% full. 11 bikes available, 11 docks open. That's 11 bike available to ride to pick up pizza somewhere else.)
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:14 pm
Mike from Williamsburg says:
And now Matt has devolved into thoughtless lashing out. People have both trust foods but have to share apartments with so many people and can still barely afford it.. how's that work? It doesn't--but this isn't about traffic, parking, or bikes for Matt or for Gangone. It's about resenting people who are different.

There are lot of people with wealth they inherited from their parents in Williamsburg. They are called landlords and 2nd- and 3rd-generation small business owners.
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:14 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Jimmy,
I wager that mostly car owners pay more taxes than non-car owners, just by the fact that they can afford a car in NYC in the first place.
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:15 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Sorry... you did say "usually." My mistake. So, I guess now is one of those unusual times?
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:15 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Mike,
Good point about the Williamsburg natives that have gotten rich from the gentrification. But, they are not riding city bikes.
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:18 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Mike,
"people who are different"
They look all the same to me. What is different about them?
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:20 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Here a parking quandary for you:
Greenpoint is losing hundreds of parking spaces to unused cabs because Uber is putting them out of business. I mean they literally occupy entire side streets. (A movie production company would have to pay for that.)
Should it be legal for the cab company to use public parking, for storage, for their private enterprise?
On the other hand, Uber is also a ride service company but does not have to follow the strict (and expensive) city regulations that the cab companies do.
Do you tell the cabs to get lost or regulate Uber? Both?
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:37 pm
jay from nyc says:
So I guess this is a race to see whether Citibike or no name pizza shop will go out of business first.
Sept. 14, 2015, 5:52 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Jay,
I know, right. Maybe we can get a Dominos in there, or a McD's... cause I'm lovin' it!
Sept. 14, 2015, 7:02 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Does Citibank take the racks away in the winter, or just the bikes? So, no parking for bike or cars?
Brilliant.
Sept. 14, 2015, 7:29 pm
Mike from Williamsburg says:
Both the racks and the bikes will be there throughout the winter. The idea that there are no bikes or no one rides bikes in winter is made up by the same people who are wrong about everything else they say too.
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:05 pm
Jim from Cobble Hill says:
If you need a car, you need the suburbs, not Brooklyn. Go drive to your walmarts and your strip malls and don't clog up streets and buildings which were built long before your precious car culture was invented.
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:18 pm
Trollerskates from moving target says:
damn straight I have the "right" to park my car on the street. And all you whining hipsters can cry all day about, but it's the way it is, and the way it's gonna be.
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:24 pm
jay from nyc says:
Of course you have the right to park on the street, but it'll cost ya, cause the city wants you to use the MTA..... you know, that thing that smells like human do-do, breaks every time there is any kind of bad weather, or no weather, takes 10 years to add one station and then acts like they built train that goes to the moon, and kills dozens of people every year, and whose bus drivers want to be exempted from rules in case they run someone over?
Oh, and despite that, NYC still has almost the worst traffic congestion in the country.
Ever get the feeling you've been had?
Sept. 14, 2015, 8:44 pm
Northside Ned from Greenpoint says:
On this street everyday. The medical supply store is an antiquated relic whose days are numbered. Tony's is low grade slop for fat asses, and given the changing demographics of the neighborhood; it's days are numbered as well.

Meh, there's nothing to see here.
Sept. 14, 2015, 9:58 pm
Annie from Williamsburg says:
I do not see the purpose. Why put it in an area where people bike. Hello they already own a freaking bike.. This station is always full and it really needs to go. Just a waste of space. How useful will this being during the winter season? I'll wait while the rocket scientist figures this one out..
Sept. 15, 2015, Midnight
The Crazed from Crazy Town says:
Nothing like a bike related article to bring out the overly opinionated car hating crazies. Most of them won't even use CitiBikes...
Sept. 15, 2015, 6:49 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Matt, your comment about Uber is very misinformed. Uber vehicles and drivers have to fulfill the same rules and laws that ALL T&LC car services have to fulfill. The drivers all have T&LC licenses and the cars are all registered as livery vehicles. Take a look the next time. No, they don't have yellow can medallions. And neither do any of the for-hire cars in my neighborhood.... not sure about yours? The yellow cabs *park* in Flatbush, but they don't ever pick up fares there. They bee line it to Manhattan.
Sept. 15, 2015, 9:07 am
bikopath from Brooklyn says:
Sidewalks are the logical place for bike racks.

With NYC having the most ridiculously wide sidewalks, there's room enough to put them there without removing motorists parking (note to consider diagonal bike racks take less width).

Let's create inclusion without exclusion, then everyone wins!

Less accommodation of overpopulation wouldn't hurt either (think about the root causes).
Sept. 15, 2015, 9:09 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
By the way -- in the winter months this year (January through March), the Citibike System was averaging about 10,000 trip per day. Spring (April through June) about 35,000 trips per day.

So, yeah. Winter is a little 'slower' but it's still plenty busy. And there's been an overall increase Q1 2014 vs. Q1 2015 (year over year), so....
Sept. 15, 2015, 9:11 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
bikopath -- That was just a stupid comment about sidewalks. I would suspect actual pedestrians would disagree with your assessment of NYC having "ridiculously wide" sidewalks.
Sept. 15, 2015, 9:13 am
Mike from Williamsburg says:
As I already pointed out, Graham Ave has 4 lanes dedicated to cars. If we look at the sidewalks too, that's about 6 lanes worth of space, 4 of which are for cars. But many more people are on foot than in cars. If the car people can't get by with merely hogging 2/3 of the available space, they need to figure out a new system.
Sept. 15, 2015, 10:17 am
TOM from Brooklyn says:
I wonder what Dr. Donald Shoup says about free parking for pedalcycles belonging to a for-profit fee-charging enterprise on NYC commercial avenues and the elimination of paid-parking spots($3,500/spot/year) meant for cash customers. Some municipalities do bill for the loss of revenues. Seems valid and fiscally responsible to me.
Sept. 15, 2015, 11:35 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Well, TOM.... The DOT is supposed to be serving the TRANSPORTATION needs of the City, not just the needs and desires of drivers. Bike sharing is part of the DOT's portfolio.

The purpose of time-limited parking (including meters) is to ensure there is TURN-OVER on commercial streets (i.e., a person doesn't just park there all day and makes room for other people). If you keep this in mind, bike sharing docks are an *extremely* efficient use of space. Access to businesses by bike. Many vehicles/people per parking spot, not just one.

I don't know if the DOT has any plan to bill the bike share operator for so-called 'revenue loss.' I doubt it. I bet they see it as a very good investment to the transportation infrastructure.

Do you know what would make FAR more sense than quibbling over a $1/hr parking meter?

Having the DOT charge, say, $75/year for a NYC resident permit sticker. They could make lots and lots of revenue, make lots of room by getting all of the illegal/unregistered/out-of-state/uninsured cars off the streets. It would also stop the Long Island commuters that drive to Bklyn and Queens and take the subway the rest of the way to Manhattan. Proof of residency Proof of NYS Regsitration and Insurance. I know I'd be a very happy car owner if that happened.
Sept. 15, 2015, 2 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
And guess what -- an annual resident parking sticker would also create a mechanism for permitting/charging for vehicles owned by Car2Go, livery cabs, yellow cabs and other commercial vehicles that park on residential streets. They could be charged $5,000 per vehicle per year or whatever makes sense.

Talk about making drivers happy when all of a sudden those "Evil Car2Go cars taking away my parking!!" have to pay for it? Political win-win, right?
Sept. 15, 2015, 2:06 pm
Lee from Williamsburg says:
The neighborhood is so grossly overpopulated as it is. There are bikes all over the place and it looks overcrowded and dirty. I was born here and have lived here all my life and I see how the quality of living has decreased over these past years. Enough with the bikes! And this is why when some moron who really needs shower leaves their bike tied to my gate they dint find it there when they return.
Sept. 16, 2015, 6:39 am
Northside Ned from Greenpoint says:
Most of the 'natives' look like they subscribe to the James Gandolfini school of diet and physical fitness.

They should check out the bikes.
Sept. 16, 2015, 9:18 am
Tal Barziali from Pleasantville, NY says:
After reading all of the comments here, I feel that some of you should try looking at the causes to why some of these business owners oppose Citibike rather than just looking at the effects. Maybe it's because they feel that only a small part of the neighborhood will be using them and it just might just seem empty filled with unused bikes there. They would rather have the space filled with those who use it constantly. Believe it or not, many store owners that are off of spaces involving metered parking benefit off of this as does the city with the revenue. Of course when it snows, these racks will most likely just have a bunch of bikes just standing there, because I highly doubt many will want to do it in such bad conditions.
Sept. 16, 2015, 2:25 pm
Tal Barziali from Pleasantville, NY says:
Of course I type this from my mother's mobile home in Pleasantville so I don't actually know anything about the outside world. I'm also morbidly obese and mother wouldn't let me ride bikes. Oh! the Hot pockets are ready, see ya!
Sept. 16, 2015, 3:36 pm
Talk Barzilai from Peasantville, NY says:
Bicycles are the root of all evil.
Sept. 16, 2015, 10:12 pm
Den says:
Graham is two lane, not four lane. Stop lying "Ned".
Sept. 17, 2015, 7:46 am
Den says:
Sorry. Stop lying , "Mike". I get you two confused so easily.
Sept. 17, 2015, 7:47 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Den, One of the lanes is parking.

Sidwalk -- Parking -- Travel -- Travel -- Parking -- Sidewalk

That means 4/6ths of the space between the buildings is dedicated to cars. (2/3rds)

On a 4-lane road, that would be 6/8ths (or 3/4) of the road being dedicated to cars.

This isn't rocket science, Den.
Sept. 17, 2015, 11:08 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
By the way, Den. Feel free to apologize to Mike for being rude and calling him a liar. Here's some sample language you might want to use:

"I'm sorry, Mike. I misunderstood what you meant by 4 lanes dedicated to cars. I realize now that you were including the parking lane. I feel awfully silly not realizing that before since the article is all about the loss of a couple parking spots on this block. Again, I apologize for being thoughtless and posting a rude comment before thinking it through."
Sept. 17, 2015, 11:58 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I really can't seem to understand why the bike zealots here are so bent out of shape on this issue. Seriously, you guys all had your say on this, so I don't see why Phil Fontana can't have his. The difference here is that he is the one actually looking at the bike rack on a normal basis especially since it's right where he works. He just feels that it will hardly ever be used on a normal basis when that spot can be used for vehicular parking, which is constant. Again, he will know how much it's being used, because he is the one who will noticing it the most.
Sept. 17, 2015, 2:15 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
One other thing, knock it off with the impersonations of me, because I find them to be very childish, cowardly, and unprofessional.
Sept. 17, 2015, 2:17 pm
Bill says:
It's two lanes of traffic on Graham.
Sept. 17, 2015, 2:54 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
It's FOUR lanes of cars on Graham.
Sept. 17, 2015, 3:24 pm
Tal Barzilai from Peasantville, NY says:
I forgot to add that when it snows, bikes are snowed in. But parking spaces function as normal, lol!
Sept. 17, 2015, 5:13 pm
VINCENT GANGONE from WILLIAMSBURG says:
I would like to put my 2 cents in since i'm the new Chair of the transportation committee.
I first would like to thank Karen Nieves for all the hard work she has put into this committee for years.
To some of the bad mouthers out there. I been a resident of williamsburg for 50 years born and raised . I personally voted for citibikes for many locations as well as the one on metropolitan ave. The citibikes have taken over 80 linear feet of graham ave. I am personally think they should be on the sidewalk as the one on Graham between Jackson and Withers Streets. but on the sidewalk, so you get best of both worlds.
This way you retain parking for patrons for the comercial businesses. Also Graham Ave has only 2 lanes and not four as someone has mentioned. Maybe they where thinking of the BQE. espressway.
To all the negative statements towards car owners and the like. The streets are for motor vehicles primarily, and we must now share them with a growing number of bicyclists. Im proposing that all bicyclists be registered and take a course as all other people do to operate a mode of transportation as in motor vehicles. to drive in the city streets. That means riding responsibly with the flow of traffic as is the law, helmets, front and rear lights , stop at red lights and if not get a ticket like other means of travelers do, its only fair now isn't it. If you want to share the road equally you have to equally adhere to the rules of the road. Some may say well back in the day there were no cars just horse and wagons, well my friend they also had to be registered and have reflectors attacked to them. Look in Pennsylvania the Amish have to do it and there in the middle of nowhere. So buck up and get ready........
Sept. 17, 2015, 6:47 pm
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
God Help Us All if that really was a comment from the new chair of the CB's Transportation Committee.

Just more inflammatory rhetortic without any understanding of the city's *actual" transportation needs... other than the usual "windshield view" of life.

As I mentioned before, Vincent, I'm a car owner that drives quite a bit. But, I don't have this sense of entitlement and disreagard for reality that you seem to have... and you are in charge of the committee making recommendations to the city?! No wonder why the DOT is forced to exercises its right to ignore the CBs.

And I'll repeat the point made above several times that you're ignoring... Graham has FOUR lanes dedicated to cars. FOUR lanes. Count them:

Sidewalk -- Parking -- Travel -- Travel -- Parking -- Sidealk

FOUR.
Sept. 18, 2015, 9:06 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I can't stop farting.
Sept. 18, 2015, 9:16 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
Also -- Vincent. I ignored this part of your comment because it was just ridiculous, but I figure it's worth pointing out to other people who are willfully ignorant like you.

Amish horse and buggies DO NOT require insurance.
Amish horse and buggies DO NOT require registration and a license plate.

The only requirement is proper reflective and lighting equipment and following rules of the rode. Very similar to bicycles and pedestrians.
Sept. 18, 2015, 11:12 am
Jimmy from Flatbush says:
road*
Sept. 18, 2015, 1:06 pm
VINCENT GANGONE says:
I stand corrected i guess we need more people like you to sit on the committee. Since you seem well versed on the laws and the subject, feel free to reach out to CB1 or me and ill put you on the committee. Its better to participate then just blog about it. That will not get you anywhere.
We dont know everything but many seem to now it all.
Please reach out make your input count.
Sept. 18, 2015, 1:50 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Vincent, unfortunately, many of them just like to talk from the safety of their own computer screens rather than show their faces in public. I have always viewed them as nothing more than just non-voters on Election Day and they even complain about the results when they themselves didn't bother to vote. Some have to understand that it's what you do in real life that matters, not what do on some faceless message board. At least I have had the guts to speak at many hearings and events involving certain topics such as the WTC site, Atlantic Yards, affordable housing, traffic planning, transportation issues, etc. Again, I feel the real reason they don't want bicycles to ever be licensed, registered, and even insured is mainly because they know that they can be tracked down especially since many of them tend to flee the scene of an accident that they cause and used to get away with it.
Sept. 18, 2015, 2:42 pm
vincent gangone says:
Thanks tal.

So true. funny they all have aliases when blogging. I use my real name i have nothing to hide.
I may not know everything but i try to make my input count.

Make yourselves heard when it counts.
Posting useless facts when we live in the real world
Sept. 18, 2015, 2:53 pm
ct says:
If the reading of the minutes at CB1 were the reading of the IPs that would be fun
Sept. 19, 2015, 9:49 pm
Jim from Williamsburg says:
This is total BS - having the stations is great! Really glad they put the one on Graham up!
April 9, 2016, 11:21 am

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