Police, pols: More ‘snitches’ needed to stop C’Hill, F’Greene shootings

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Gun violence is on the rise in Clinton Hill and Fort Greene, but local police didn’t even realize the problem was so bad until recently because residents weren’t reporting the crimes, claims the neighborho­ods’ top cop.

“We had problem areas that looked totally fine on paper,” said Capt. Peter Fiorillo, commanding officer of the 88th Precinct at a town-hall meeting about the escalating violence on Wednesday. “We just weren’t getting complaints.”

There have been 15 shootings that wounded 18 people in the precinct this year — compared with eight shootings injuring 12 people during the same period last year, according to police data.

But authorities can’t stop the bullets flying until more community members take pride in pointing the finger at local lawbreakers, said officials.

“Snitching is a badge of honor,” said Public Advocate Letitia James, who appeared at the event alongside Borough President Adams, echoing statements they made at an anti-gun-violence rally outside Borough Hall earlier this month.

The Beep, a former lieutenant, said parents need to search their kids’ rooms to make sure crime is not beginning in their own homes.

“Too many times I’ve heard, ‘My baby wouldn’t do that,’ ” said Adams. “Then we find out that ‘your baby’ was the king head of the whole operation.”

The police department must also assign more manpower to the precinct, said James. The neighboring 79th Precinct, which covers part of Bedford-Stuyvesant, had a comparable 17 shootings this year but has twice as many officers as the 112 who serve the 88th, she said, and the department needs to close the gap.

“That is unacceptab­le,” said James, who lives in Clinton Hill and represented all three neighborhoods as a councilwoman.

The two precincts have roughly similar crime rates, but the 79th Precinct serves almost 40,000 more residents, according to police data.

Police brass said more officers are headed to both beats. For more than a decade, police have sent most new academy graduates to the highest-crime neighborhoods in the city, but this year, it is doling out rookies across all 98 Brooklyn precincts, said Chief of Patrol Carlos Gomez. So far, the department has assigned 10 new officers to the 88th Precinct, and 33 to the 79th, he said.

But the lawmen didn’t agree that more squad cars on the streets would stop the shootings. They say it is only a handful of nogoodniks engaging in gunplay, but their officers can’t collar the crooks without the help of law-abiding residents.

“The police have a saying — ‘100 percent of the crime is committed by 10 percent of the people,’” said Gomez. “And they are ruining it for all of us.”

Reach reporter Harry MacCormack at or by calling (718) 260–2511. Follow him on Twitter @HMacBKPaper.
Updated 10:17 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
I call BS. Shootings aren't being reported? Lies to cover up for the decades of lazy DA prosecutions and lazy family court judges that continue today. Someone gets shot and does what? Go home and sleep it off? You want to end gun violence then make the 3 year mandatory sentence actually MANDATORY! Stop down grading gun charges. Have gang affiliation carry extra time. They are after all, modern day urban terrorists that destroy communities from within.
Aug. 24, 2015, 6:46 am
jjm from c. hill says:
@common, all of this tough mandatory stuff & you're gonna be footing the bill for it. Be careful what you wish for. And the modern day terrorist thing, the same can be said about the NYPD if you wanna take it there.
Aug. 24, 2015, 7:20 am
Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
Id rather pay for it in money with proper incarceration as opposed to paying for it in blood like we are now. And yes the NYPD has it's problems but they aren't the ones killing blacks wholesale. Less garbage in our streets means less need for police.
Aug. 24, 2015, 8:38 am
Joey from Clinton Hills says:
Yes, this is total BS from Capt. Peter Fiorillo. 112 officers cover the yuppified FG/CH neighborhoods and they don't know about few bad spots. I would say it's pathetic, but I know they are lying (and lazy.)
Aug. 24, 2015, 10:05 am
Shamdonkwa Jones from Clinton Hill says:
It was Joey - he did it! Arrest him!!!!!!!!
Aug. 24, 2015, 11:42 am
jjm from c. hill says:
As i've said in other topics on this site, i user to live in c. hill & frequented ft greene back in the 90s. It was WAY worser then it is now so i think you guys need to quit with the hysteria. Besides, the main thing driving crime now is electronics so in actuality, they're not really shooting as much as they did back then. Now they"re just beating & robbing yuppies that have infiltrated the area over the years for iphones, laptops, etc. because thats where the real money is.
Aug. 24, 2015, 11:54 am
John Wasserman from Prospect Heights says:
When I was in school, my teacher once looked at my personal notebook and commented on the drawings. He told me that there is a time and a place for everything.
John Wasserman
Aug. 24, 2015, 2:57 pm
gold shield says:
Eric Adams was a platoon lieutenant at the 88th Precinct but he attained the rank of captain before running for elected office.
Aug. 24, 2015, 4:07 pm
Epiphany from Ex-Brooklyn says:
"“We had problem areas that looked totally fine on paper,” said Capt. Peter Fiorillo, commanding officer of the 88th Precinct."

Anyone who said that should be fired immediately. What are you paying this fool for?

How would it look if you ran a company and everything was going bad (in this case, people getting shot) and you scratched your head at a board meeting and said: "jeez, everything looked good on paper."

And why are they "problem areas" if they look good on paper. This guy needs to audit a logic class at Brooklyn College.

Somebody look up his salary! (the one he gets before he does his 20 years and gets a full pension for the rest of his life).
Aug. 24, 2015, 11:15 pm
jjm from c. hill says:
Had you lived in nyc during the 80s & 90s, you'd laugh at this bs thats goimg on now. Multiple people were getting smoked darn near every single day around those times in nyc, spilling over into areas outside city limits as well. What you see now in ft greene/c. hill is nothing more than a blip. But i guess for those who've never even dreamt of living in nyc back in those days that are here now are looking at it as a big deal.
Aug. 25, 2015, 8:27 am
String' Em up from Light Poles says:
Over 900 people shot so far this year in NYC. Well at least El Salvador's Supreme Court got it right as far as gangs go. Time to do the same here.
Aug. 25, 2015, 8:45 am

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