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Bumpy roads ahead: Residents push for speed humps in Greenwood, Windsor Terrace

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Windsor Terrace and Greenwood Heights residents are racing forward in their push to install speed bumps on several blocks that they claim lead-footed have turned into dangerous raceways.

Community Board 7’s transportation committee voted unanimously on Tuesday in favor of requests for traffic-calming lumps on 11th Avenue between Prospect Avenue and Sherman Street, Ocean Parkway between Caton Place and Kermit Place, 21st Street between Fifth and Sixth avenues, and Sixth Avenue between 21st and 22nd streets and 22nd and 23rd streets.

“Speed bumps are deterrents,” said Sam Sierra, chair of the committee. “When you go over it and mess up your car you’ll know next time not to come speeding down the block.”

The speed bumps are only the latest traffic-taming measure pushed by safety-minded Greenwoodsmen, who want to reduce the speed limit from 30 miles per hour to 20 miles per hour on a five-block stretch of Sixth Avenue without any stop signs or traffic lights.

“For whatever reasons folks think that its great to turn Sixth Avenue from 20th to 24th streets into a speedway even though you have to jam on the breaks to make the sharp turn at 24th Street,” said Aaron Brashear of Concerned Citizens of Greenwood Heights, who added that speed bumps won’t totally solve the problem, but are “better than nothing.”

Not all of the proposed speed bumps got the green light: the committee tabled discussion of a proposed speed bump on 21st Street between Fourth and Fifth avenues because residents of that block were not present at the meeting, and denied a suggested build-out on 18th Street between Seventh and Eighth avenues because opponents were worried about noise and the impact vehicles would have on the pipes below the street when they roll over the bump too fast.

But 18th Street residents say some kind of traffic-calming measure is necessary to keep pedestrians safe from motorists racing off of the Prospect Expressway.

“The cars come off the expressway and they just fly down the block,” said Theresa McDermott, who claims speeding drivers often knock the side-view mirrors off of parked cars along 18th Street. “I’m surprised those cars haven’t gone through a house by now.”

The Department of Transportation has already conducted separate studies for each of the proposed speed bumps and deemed them all “feasible,” according to CB7 district manager Jeremy Laufer, who added that the city is waiting to get formal support from the community before moving forward.

The speed bumps will go before the full CB7 board later this month.

Reach reporter Natalie Musumeci at nmusumeci@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-4505. Follow her at twitter.com/souleddout.
Updated 10:08 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
This is just another misguided attempt by the Bloomberg administration to unfairly target New Yorkers who are trying to get to their jobs, which require them to drive as fast as they need to to get to. Why punish them with speed bumps that can break their cars, as the person says? A better solution that has been proven to work is to just retime the traffic lights and put up signs which drivers can read since they have to be able to read if they want to pass their license test. And by the way, cyclists don't have to pass a test to ride over speed bumps so I don't think we should single out drivers.
March 13, 2013, 9:30 am
manposeur from brokeland says:
Your a fool Tal. in light of all these pedestrian fatalities & lets not just include the cyclist fatalities, too many cars are simply not obeying the speed limit. too many drivers are calous with peoples lives- That is old Brooklyn.
March 13, 2013, 9:55 am
ty from pps says:
Manposeur -- That was CLEARLY not the *real* Tal Barzilai (if there is such a thing). That comment used decent grammar and the sentences weren't a rambling 200 words each. And the thoughts seemed to progress in a linear fashion.

Let's just wait until the real Tal gets home to his mom's basement. I'm sure his comment will be even more amazing!
March 13, 2013, 12:21 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
That was a good imposterer Tal. I am gonna wait for the real fake Tal to tell us what's best for us before I comment.
March 13, 2013, 12:25 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Frist of all, I don't see why they should add speed bumps just for some people when I don't always see the bike zealouts using them. I am very familiar with this neighborhood from Google Maps and I know that most of the problem there is caused by those who are flouting the laws which they want others to follow, namely those like Streetsblog who claim that jaywalking is not a problem when according to what I know it is the main reason that it is dangerous.
March 13, 2013, 1:31 pm
Mike from Williamsburg says:
Why doesn't the Brooklyn Paper get a decent commenting system?
March 13, 2013, 1:41 pm
John Wasserman from Windsor Terrace says:
I don't want to talk trouble here, but my wife and I find the remarks of Mr. Barzilai above to be unimformed, at the very best. Also, my son has google maps on his I-Charger and we can't find that neighborhood anywhere in Brooklyn. If you'll pardon my saying so, and I don't mean to curse, but what gives?
March 13, 2013, 4:54 pm
jay from NYC says:
The area needs speed bumps, they also need police to enforce the traffic law, the entire area is over-run with motorists blowing through red lights, going the wrong way down one way streets, and running stop signs. At some intersections you can see them running the red light all day and night one after another.
If the city does not want to pay the police to enforce the law, and they don't want to put traffic cameras up, then speed bumps are the next best thing.
March 13, 2013, 5:22 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
First off all, I wasn't at my computer all day today, and those that comment just right after the fakes do make good suspects. Seriously, I don't think that speed bumps will solve the problems especially when there are many who don't slow down at them. All they will do is just create more noises from the impact any motor vehicle does to them. Also, there are certain motor vehicles that can go fast on speed bumps and not even feel affected by them as well, so only the more vulnerable ones will take the damage from them. Overall, if you really want to make the streets safe, then everyone must follow the laws and not just motorists only, because when cyclists and pedestrians flout the laws, they are placing themselves into harm's way.
March 13, 2013, 5:42 pm
ty from pps says:
And there's Tal.
March 13, 2013, 8:41 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
Tal

Did you read the article? Parked cars are being damaged. Did they "flout the laws"?
March 14, 2013, 5:09 am
DyeHipster from Weal Bwookwyn says:
Gaaaaaaahhh!!! If the yupstars want speedbumps so they don't get plowed over on their pennyfartings, the should just move back to flyoverlandia and start an artisinanal cement company. Brooklyn doesn't need speedbumps...or laws for that matter.
March 14, 2013, 12:08 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Other Michael, how about looking at long term solutions rather than short term solutions for improving street conditions? This way, it won't result in a cycle of generations reversing what the previous one did. Just because we won't live to see what happens later doesn't mean that we shouldn't think about what will happen decades or even a century later when it comes to helping with streets.
March 14, 2013, 4:07 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope of the future` says:
Tal

In a century roads will not be for cars. We will all have flying cars, or the we will be living on the streets.

In the mean time I would like a plan that keeps the mirrosr on my neighbors cars.
March 14, 2013, 4:34 pm
Rob from Greenpoint says:
All for it. Traffic calming all the way.
March 14, 2013, 7:43 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Other Michael, please show me this flying car you speak of so much, because I won't believe it until I see it.
March 14, 2013, 8:15 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
Tal,

it is the future..... "will happen decades or even a century later."
March 14, 2013, 8:28 pm
JAY from NYC says:
flying car avaible here
http://www.terrafugia.com/
March 14, 2013, 10:01 pm
John Wasserman from Windsor Terrace says:
How many decades do you suppose it will take for there to be at least a few of these flying cars on the road, Michael, if you don't mind my asking. This is interesting. Thank you in advance.
March 15, 2013, 12:05 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
According to my calculations we should have had fling cars already.
March 15, 2013, 3:08 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
If cars could fly, then there would be no need to talk about speed bumps at all let alone traffic calming.
March 15, 2013, 3:45 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope, Earth says:
But they don't fly now, and we need to make the roads safer TODAY
March 15, 2013, 7:11 pm

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