August 25, 2011 / Brooklyn news / Development / Prospect Heights / Ratner Construction Update

Workers vs. Ratner — round two

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More than 30 angry construction workers rallied at the Barclays Center on Wednesday, the latest in a series of recent protests against developer Bruce Ratner for failing to hire more locals.

The protest march from Myrtle Avenue in Downtown to the under-construction basketball arena at Flatbush and Atlantic avenues is the second rally in a month, and featured workers demanding jobs that they say Ratner promised in exchange for union support for the $5-billion mega-project.

“We want jobs for the people that supported the project,” said Martin Allen, the president of People for Political and Economic Empowerment, a group that helps unemployed people find work. “Ratner promised he would give us jobs.”

The developer’s spokesman said that there are jobs — 636 of them, to be exact — at the arena right now. And 229 of those slots are filled by Brooklynites, said the spokesman, Brian Moriarty.

All are union positions.

Ratner once promised that the entire 22-acre project would create 1,500 jobs per year over the 10-year buildout, but the mega-development is currently on hold except for the arena and a residential tower on Dean Street that Ratner hopes to begin this week.

As such, some union men are impatient.

“We were depending on this work,” said Malik Lyons, a member of Local 79, one of the many labor unions that supported the project on the promise of jobs. Ratner, he added, “went back on his word.”

Sekou Troutman, a Bedford-Stuyvesant construction worker who protested on Wednesday, said he applied for a job with the developer in January, but never received a reply.

“We just need what’s rightfully ours,” Troutman said.

The 368-unit Dean Street tower promises new work, but Ratner is considering a prefabricated design that would eliminate hundreds of jobs, union officials said.

Updated 5:26 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Dock Oscar from Puke Slop says:
Same old sad story. The working man taken advantage by the big guy. Even sadder, every time some one dangles the promise of jobs, we believe them.
Aug. 25, 2011, 12:23 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
It's too bad that these people weren't fighting this when they should have been from the begining. The only thing that they are doing now is just avoiding being lead to the slaughter house when they orignally believed it. Of course, it was only a matter of time when Ratner was going to lie to them and they would find out that he only needed them to help push it forward. In reality, Ratner cares next to nothing about communties, and just destroys and builds over them only to replace them with own stuff.
Aug. 25, 2011, 5:08 pm
judahspechal from bed-stuy says:
I want Jobs jobs jobs. Housing Housing Housing. That's why I supported this project.
But the obstructionist; I've noticed their recent bid for redemption with your protest for lack of jobs. Well glad U weren't sitting down w/Ratner discussing travelling plans ala Ms James.
PS. March against yourself for lack of jobs while you're at it DDDB. U delayed this project right into eco-crash.Ratner love you guys. And the Nets will sell-out.
Lot's of bars will pop up along Atlantic Ave away from the Posh sets in The Slope & Heights.

Beers & Women!!

R those the jobs???
Aug. 25, 2011, 9:25 pm
x-man from gravesend says:
If you have a union card, you should be given first preference over non Brooklyn residents. If you are a unqualified mook, then walk away. Stop causing trouble.
Aug. 25, 2011, 9:42 pm
unions are bad from get the unions out says:
Get rid of out and make NYC better
Aug. 26, 2011, 10:52 am
@unions from gp says:
Because fighting billionaire real estate developers who have wronged you is so much easier when you are alone and broke.
Aug. 26, 2011, 1:57 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I still can't believe that there are still those who believe everything Ratner tells them even after some of his original paid supporters went against him. BTW, there were delays on this even before the first lawsuit was ever made, so DDDB isn't the one responsible for them. Some of the delays were due to other things they have nothing to do with. One other thing, those just doing the protests weren't always opposed to this, they were originally supported this left and right, and they have no connections to DDDB whatsoever. I guess the only reason why some support this is either because they work for Ratner or they are not the victims here. It's very easy to support something when they aren't targeting you.
Aug. 26, 2011, 2:47 pm
judahspechal from bed-stuy says:
Tal your post shows a lack of knowledge as to why these folks supported AY.Not cause they were paid off. How insulting! They wanted & were promise jobs. They want job. Get it together !
Aug. 26, 2011, 4:21 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
What is that you don't understand about this, judahspechal? Many of those former supporters got free handouts from Ratner in the past. BTW, they were allowed to be part of the CBA when those who were directly affected weren't even allowed to join at all. Those people were lied into believing all those promises, but only now realize that they were duped. It was nothing but a bait and switch. BTW, most of those who backed it usually were on his payroll. For the last time, nobody is against jobs, they are against jobs that are only going to be either minium wage or temporary, which is the only thing that Ratner will be promising to locals while those who aren't from the area will get the good jobs.
Aug. 26, 2011, 6:12 pm
Tal Barzilia from NY says:
First of all, I could not have posted at 7:12pm August 26 because I was on the hopper at the time, suffering from a very bad case of stomach cramps. Second, it is not the case that I don't like Bruce Ratner. It is not personal at all, only factual. I question the reeson why his company wastes so much money on useless things like bikelanes when I still ride my tricycle around my block on weekend mornings for excersize, and without any subsidies. these monies could instead be used to hire residents to do useful things like count pigeons, replace burnt litebulbs on traffic standards, conduct taste-tests for a new version of Nathan's famous hotdogs, etc. On a side note, with my longstanding arguments against the bikelanes, I am merely stating that car owners pay much more than their disporportionate share of taxes and deserve more consideration than few biker zealouts that stand to gain. MOst bikers that I know are unemployed or working as squeejee punks. Lastly, I am tired of everybody ganging up on me when all I am doing is being a nerdy leftist, stating facts and debunking the undebunkables.

A nerdy leftist is pretty much a liberal who is known be an intelectual. Examples include Michael Moore, Nicole Ritchie, Al Gore, John Kerry, Glenn Beck, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, etc. Some us are known for disprooving claims aimed against us. I hate to open up like Moore, who has to start off by debunking what he is being accused of by others when they barely know about him or at least what he really does and the same thing is about me. The reason I take this side is b/c it does feel like they would understand the way I feel. Presenting the claims is what distinguishes us from the conspirators. Another ability of the nerdy left is debunking others by taking their opponents own facts, figures, and logic, and turning it against them.

The truth is that most will not get what I am saying directly, so I use analogies to state them. Breaking it down to a way it can be understood more easily. When I use the WNBA, it's to state that my side isn't being forced anyone as their is no proof to anyone forcing anyone to watch the WNBA. I use the reference of Digimon as those who can't find evidence to disprooving claim just like how there is no proof that Digimon coppied Pokemon. When I use Hamas, it refers to those who don't listen to reason as Hamas believes that only acting by hostilities is the only answer. When I use the statement of how the Red Sox came back from being 0-3 against the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS, it's to show that it's not a good idea to celebrate too soon or make unwarranted assumptions despite how close one might be. The mentioning of the Spanish Armada was to show that even the strongest can be human. When I mention the Israeli War of Independence, it's to state how one can achieve something despite all the odds aimed aganst it.

You don't have to like it, but you should respect it. After all, I respected your view point and I would ask that you do the same for me.

-Tal Barzilai
Aug. 29, 2011, 11:03 am
Rick from Prospect says:
"Where is my job"....Did you really think you were more than pawns for Mr Ratner and James Caldwell? Go back to James Caldwell who organized you with his Build Scheme, and has a nice new Cadillac, ask him where the jobs are since he vouched for Ratner.

They are both Rats and only care about a quick dollar. The Build office is on Vanderbuilt and Bergen, go there and see about your jobs.
Sept. 14, 2011, 9:27 am

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