DUMBO feels dumped on by NYPD

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Tourists and ex-cons will mingle under a secret plan to move an NYPD property office to tony DUMBO — allowing people fresh out of jail to retrieve their stuff in an area filled with much-promoted attractions for out-of-towners.

Community officials are outraged that the city would relocate the clerk’s office to a garage on Front Street, below the Brooklyn Bridge, without notifying locals. And the cops, they said, are refusing to address concerns that it could lure a law-breaking crowd.

“The city needs to answer important questions before moving the office,” said Councilman Steve Levin (D–Brooklyn Heights). “I’m disappointed that it has not been transparent about what is happening with this site.”

The NYPD depot — which stores jewelry, cash and other belongings for people while they’re in jail — will move from Gold Street, next to the 84th Precinct stationhouse, to an NYPD-owned garage near Old Fulton Street.

And when the repository moves, it will bring former prisoners along with it.

“The type of people who will be loitering around puts residents, families and tourists at risk,” said Joan Zimmerman, president of the Fulton Ferry Landing Association. “What happens when the people waiting around decide they want to go explore? The city couldn’t have chosen a worse place.”

The new storehouse is steps from Brooklyn Bridge Park, Grimaldi’s and other tourist spots near Pier 1, but it’s also around the corner from a middle school on Dock Street that’s slated to open in two years, and Jane’s Carousel, a merry-go-round opening this month.

The property clerk’s job is to safeguard property that the Police Department acquires after an arrest.

The clerk also stores lost-and-found items, vehicles, and the firearms of cops going on leave, retired officers, and civilians waiting to obtain a gun license.

As a safety measure, people are required to leave the office with their firearms in a locked safe.

Community Board 2 District Manager Rob Perris said that the city is exempt a public approval process because it’s relocating into a building that it already owns.

“Like a lot of things in life, there’s a ‘have to’ and then there’s a ‘should,’ ” Perris said. “I would hope that city government would operate with a bit more transparency than that.”

The Police Department declined to give a rationale for the move.

Updated 5:25 pm, July 9, 2018
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anywho says:
Boo hoo, so it goes from one part of the 84 precinct to another part, mind you more isolated. No one feels bad for the folks that have to walk farther to pick up there stuff? Innocent until proven guilty. By the way, it is not only alleged criminals that deal with the clerk. Ignorance rules.
Aug. 16, 2011, 5:42 am
teegee from sunset park says:
how dare NYPD put something so "negative" in such an up and coming exclusive area? It would seem more appropriate to put it in my neighbor - sunset park. after all, the brooklyn bridge park will be stealing general tax revenue that could go to my underserved neighborhood (from the jehovah witness properties) to fund the park.

Let's make it complete...anything that you don't want in your neighborhood put in mine.
Aug. 16, 2011, 8:48 am
Anywhoboowho from BK says:
Guess you must be one of the criminals. No one wants to deal with you lowlives.
Aug. 16, 2011, 8:50 am
Zeke from DoBro says:
The current location for this property office is across the street from the new condos in downtown BK. I don't notice any sketchier-than-usual folk around the precinct due to it. However, if the whiners in DUMBO are correct, then our quality of life here is about to improve!
Aug. 16, 2011, 10:46 am
Katrina from DUMBO says:
What does "tony DUMBO" mean? Is this something I should know, or is this yet another BK Paper typo. Also, you're selling dogs on your site now? NOT cool.
Aug. 16, 2011, 12:47 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:
They'll be taking up space on the line for Grimaldi's that belongs to Hipster's tweeting to their friends bragging how long they had to stand on line for pizza, when they could go to 20th street and get it right away.
Aug. 16, 2011, 7:19 pm
Lyle from Bed-Stuy says:
I think it is exactly what the tourists need to see! But really, MOST people picking up their property aren't going to use that as a springboard to reoffend in front of the property office.
Aug. 16, 2011, 8:26 pm
Seen it all from downtown bklyn says:
DUMBO Dumb Urban Morons Buying Overpriced.
Aug. 16, 2011, 9:44 pm
judahspechal from bed-stuy says:
Why do we keep upsetting the job creators?
Aug. 17, 2011, 10:28 am
Bill from FultonFerry says:
Despite the comments from the DUMBO haters (the building is in Fulton Ferry anyway), the fact remains that the current location is next to the 84th precinct, the Manhattan property clerk is in One Police Plaza, and the Bronx location is in the sub-basement of the Bronx County Criminal Court building. All three of these locations have a higher police presence than the proposed building. A retired officer in this neighborhood is adamantly against this move. Now why would that be?
Aug. 19, 2011, 12:38 pm
eve from dumbo says:
Love it or hate it, Brooklyn spent years and a whole lot of money to make Dumbo appealing to family friendly folks, tourists and yes affluent people who are perhaps a bit older and desire a calm, pleasant area to live. You can hate on them if you want to, but that just comes off as jealousy and bitterness. There are at least 2 extravagant weddings a day in Dumbo and around the park right next to where this ex-con pickup facility would be. There are film and fashion shoots all day every day around Dumbo. It's asinine that the NYPD would choose this location. Personally I don't think this facility should be in any residential area esp next to Brooklyn Bridge Park's playgrounds and children's carousel, schools and tourist attractions. What a stupid, but typical, NYC bureaucratic decision it would be.
Aug. 21, 2011, 3:16 pm
Boohoo from Hooville says:
Good eve. They can get a first hand glimpse of skells on NYC. Maybe they can add them to the wedding party or involve them in the photoshoot. Hahaha
Aug. 23, 2011, 11:57 am
Entropy from DUMBO says:
The bigger question is why the NYPD didn't give up that building, which has been underused for years since it stopped functioning as a garage and repair shop, for a new school in DUMBO? That way, the Walentas plan for Dock Street would have collapsed. But the lame neighborhood associations would rather spend their time and resources to sue to evict St Anns, instead of seriously strategizing to oppose a real blight on the area. Where was FFLA then? BHA? Only DNA stood up to Walentas. And now these groups are whining about a property office for ex-offenders? Elitist idiots.
Aug. 23, 2011, 7:57 pm
Bill from Fulton Ferry says:
Only DNA stood up to Walentas?? Hardly. FFLA and BHA members testified against DSD at every step of the way. But there was a faction in DNA that was so politically naïve that they thought they had sown up the votes of a majority on the City Council to vote against Dock Street, only to see the development approved 39-9. This faction refused to consider compromise or negotiation, which could have resulted in a lower building.

As for the police garage, it was very much still in use during the entire Dock Street ULURP proceedings, and so was never considered for a school. Moreover, it never would be anyway, since its location directly under the Brooklyn Bridge has negated any possibility of public usage since the events of 9/11 (Walentas originally wanted to put a 400 car parking garage on that site as part of one of his development plans last century).

As for St Ann's, it is ironic that you state that the lawsuit sought to evict them, rather than to address the improper alienation of public parkland without proper process. After all, it is Two Trees that is evicting them from their home for the last decade.

Next time, try sticking to the facts before making false accusations. And thanks for the elitist label. I'll think of you next time I have an arugula salad while surfing the net on my Mac.
Aug. 25, 2011, 4:03 pm

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