Banned on the Fourth of July

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A Bay Ridge Arab-American group blasted the planners of a Fourth of July picnic this week after its offer to pitch in during the event was rebuffed by organizers who said they didn’t want to turn a patriotic celebration into an “ethnic event.”

The Arab American Association of New York said it offered to help out with entertainment at the picnic — which was sponsored by state Sen. Marty Golden (R–Bay Ridge) and Councilman Vincent Gentile (D–Bay Ridge) — and hire an Arab band to play a show, but organizer Chip Cafiero turned them down.

“We didn’t go after any cultural groups,” Chip Cafiero told us when asked about his decision.

Cafiero noted that everyone was invited to attend, but they should hang their ethnicity at the door.

“Arab Americans are more than welcome to come down, but they come down as American Arabs,” he said. “If the Italian Americans wanted to come down, they can, but we’re not going to play Italian music.”

But the Arab group said it should have been involved in the festivities, saying it is just as American as any other organization.

“Having an Arab-American band play at an Independence Day event visually displays that Arab-Americans are patriotic and they are a partner in all aspects of the community,” said the group’s president, Linda Sarsour.

But Cafiero pointed out that the focus of Independence Day Picnic was to celebrate America’s undying love of hot dogs and the J. Geils Band — not to celebrate the individual ethnic groups that share that love.

“America is a melting pot,” he said. “But it’s all about all the different nationalities becoming Americans.”

The annual event, which drew over 2,000 people and raised money for local community groups like the 68th Precinct Community Council, was held at the ball field at Shore Road and 82nd Street.

Cafiero said he would consider letting the group help out next year — as long as it was with the group’s wallet.

“We’re more than happy to take their money,” he said.

Updated 5:25 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Dave from Park Slope says:
Nothing sets patriotic tradition like putting our bigotry on display on the 4th of July. You must be a "real American," Chip!
July 15, 2011, 6:07 am
Tabitha from Michigan says:
The KKK was all about 100% Americanism, too. Doesn't make it right.
July 15, 2011, 7:09 am
adamben from bedstuy says:
well, if they don't want an oompah band, italian band, ..etc then that is the organizers choice. but, if the arab-american group wants to help out then they should be allowed to.
July 15, 2011, 7:33 am
Lawrence from Park Slope says:
Chip Cafiero-100% American bozo.
July 15, 2011, 8:41 am
Joe from Bay Ridge says:
Sounds like this strory is being twisted by Sarsour. Was she trying to "help", or was she trying to hijack the event? Wouldn't be the first time she pulled a publicity stunt to make herslf and her group look like "victims."
July 15, 2011, 9:08 am
Ahab from Bay Rij says:
Backwards bigots in Bay Ridge?!! I'm stunned!
July 15, 2011, 9:36 am
Chris King from the lower says:
CAIR is twisting this story around on their facebook page, go figure. It is really up to the event coordinator, and no one has the right to call them racists or bigots because they choose not to have the Muslim Band play. If it did not fit into the scheme of things. to F'n bad. Stop crying wolf.
July 15, 2011, 10:28 am
Andrew from Bay Ridge says:
It's sickening how political correctness and self hatred has rotted Westerners' perception of this event and countless others like it. There is NOTHING wrong with being American and leaving all the other ADJECTIVES (e.g. arab, african american, italian, blah, bleh, yadda yadda yadda) home.

muslims and their deceitful leadership (e.g. CAIR) are famous for exploiting this PC guilt wherever their populations are minorities. Where their populations are majorities... whoa boy, watch out. Go ahead and ask a Copt in Egypt how easy it is to repair your Church or receive justice for your daughter who was kidnapped, converted and raped (i mean married) to a muslim... or ask a Christian in Pakistan about how grand life is under the muslim blasphemy laws... or maybe ask a Jew in Malmo, Sweden (yes, SWEDEN) what life is like in a muslim majority.. oh, wait. There are no more Jews in Malmo.. they all FLED in the last few years.
July 15, 2011, 10:43 am
Christiana from Bay Ridge says:
Linda Sarsour is a known liar and political irritant. Her only interest is to create opportunities to cry Islamophobia, bigotry, and racism. It's too bad there aren't any non Muslim Arabs in her group to remind her why we left our homelands to come to America in the first place. The reason was the Islam.
July 15, 2011, 10:59 am
Mohammad from Mecca says:
"War is deceit"
July 15, 2011, 11:03 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:
"The KKK was all about 100% Americanism, too. Doesn't make it right

And Democrat to boot!
July 15, 2011, 11:31 am
Emma from Back Bay says:
CAIR is doing what CAIR always does: hijacking a non muslim event and making it all about fictitious islamphobia. Citizens of Bay Ridge, don't give into this jihad.
July 15, 2011, 11:32 am
Mike from Bay Rigde says:
Now if Sarsour had asked if their band of gay Muslim could join in, that would have made the front page of The Post. Oh wait, they stone gays, don't they? While we let them marry and live happily-ever-after. So remind me why they need to join a 4th of July event?
July 15, 2011, 12:58 pm
dolly from Marine Park says:
Chip is right. 4th of July is American Holiday. Leave your specific ethnicity at the door. You are in America. Be proud of it or love it or leave it.
July 15, 2011, 1:39 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
We need a hot dog eating contest in Bay Ridge next July 4th.
July 15, 2011, 2:29 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
We watch Japaneses eat hot dogs to celebrate July 4th.
July 15, 2011, 2:31 pm
Bruce from Midwwod says:
I am sure this is just another example of this paper making nothing into something to fit their liberal , anti American, agenda.
Chip is right. It was a independence day event. Everybody had the same rules to follow . The rules were leave your ethnicity at the door and you are welcome. America first.... just this one day. Guess that was too much to ask.
July 15, 2011, 4:52 pm
J. Geils says:
It is very unfortunate to see some people suggest that the Arab American Association of New York goes out looking for chances to "cry Islamophobia, bigotry, and racism".

The event organizers actually lucked out because conveniently no other "ethnic" group stepped up and wanted to be involved. I think we can all safely assume that if the Italian American United or the Irish American Association asked to donate money or be an event sponsor, they certainly would have been allowed to.

The organizers have an alibi here thanks only to coincidence for if another "ethnic" group had signed on as a sponsor, I think they would have had a real problem on their hands and no excuse to say no to the Arab American Association.

Furthermore, I find it impossible to believe that if the Benevolent Order of Italian Cobblers had approached the organizers with a $5K donation towards the event, they would have been given the same "Sorry, no ethnic groups" spiel.
July 15, 2011, 5:36 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
btw, no Hookah smokings in the 79 St/Shore Rd Park please! The city prohibited smoking in parks, and this includes Hookah (or else Brooklyn Paper can do a story on this).
July 15, 2011, 5:40 pm
Valerie says:
People generally hate what they don't understand and hate that which they cannot conquer. That much is evident in these comments. Keep on "Rockin In The Free World" with your heads in the sand!
July 15, 2011, 5:47 pm
Patrice says:
Chippy is a good man and was just doing as he was told. I doubt he even realized what he was saying coulda been taken the wrong way. The organizers Frankie and Marty should issue a statement to clear this up. We can't let this stuff divide our neighborhoods. We need to all co-exist in harmony. Frankie is a good guy. I can't speak for Marty.
July 15, 2011, 6:22 pm
Pacholo from Red Hook says:
Do they play salsa?
July 15, 2011, 6:43 pm
False Prophet from Mecca says:
July 15, 2011, 7 pm
False Prophet from Mecca says:
Tens of millions of muslims believe that the Indonesian Tsunami was created by a nuclear device detonated by America and/or Israel.

islam, when in power, is a ruthless supremacist and genocidal cult. islam, when not in power, is a cult of victimhood.
July 15, 2011, 7:03 pm
Bruce from midwood says:
The thing is J. Geils that the people who attended that party were not muslim ,probably were Italian and Irish and they did not try to infuse their cultures into this party because the understood what the right thing is to do in this case.
Why do you think the Arabs are the only ones that take issue with this? Really why? Could there be a ulterior motive as Linda and Emma suggest? I think so.
Valerie ...get your head out of the sand.Patrice why apologize? There was no wrongdoing here?
July 15, 2011, 9:08 pm
George from Bay Ridge says:
I would like to point out that most Arabs in the United States are not Muslim and that most Muslims in the United States are not Arab.

The vast majority of Arab immigrants in the United States have fled from Islamic ruled nations. Linda Sarsour of the Arab American Association of New York does not represent us Arabs who have escaped Islam.
July 15, 2011, 10:02 pm
John Cougar Melonballs says:
Y don't we stop beating around the bush because I think we all know that the Arab group was not allowed 2 participate because they didn't match with the organizers version of "America" which was white, overweight, middle-aged drunken Republicans getting a farmer's tan while rocking out 2 a bunch of really bad Neil Young cover songs.
July 15, 2011, 10:48 pm
Ben says:
There are approximately 80,000 people living in Bay Ridge. 78% are white, 16% are Italian, 16.5% are Irish, 11% are Arab, 5% are Chinese, and 5.5% are Greek. Syrian/Lebanese Americans have lived in Bay Ridge for many, many generations. You people have nothing to be afraid of. They are Americans just like YOU!
July 15, 2011, 10:53 pm
Ben says:
Just because they smell oddly and have no notion of what politeness is does not make these Arab visitors significantly less American than you or I.
July 16, 2011, 12:11 am
Shawn from Sunset Park says:
The group should have built up its cred first by denouncing the Ground Zero mosque and the persecution of Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Turkey, the Sudan, Iran, Nigeria, Indonesia and Malaysia. Then maybe the organizers and the community at large would have been more welcoming.
July 16, 2011, 2:35 am
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
what a shame, i was hoping to hear the Taliban Symphonic Orchestra or the world renown Al-Qaida jazz quartet.

maybe next year
July 16, 2011, 8:30 am
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
in next years muslim day parade will they allow banners by gay muslims marchers or allow jewish groups to march with them.
i doubt it.
July 16, 2011, 8:49 am
Frankie from Bay Ridge says:
I am the producer of this event and a major sponsor. Chip is the coordinator. I started this event to bring back a sense of community and patriotism for all families on the 4th of July. I could remember how Bay Ridge was in 1976 during "Operation Sail". The place was rocking. Since then people either go away or hibernate in their back yards. It's great to see families of all ethnicities spread out a blanket and have fun for the day celebrating this land of plentiness. What better place than with the backdrop of the World's Most Beautiful Bridge and New York Harbor. There were indeed families of all ethnicities there. There are no invitations given out to anyone. we do need money to pay for the free things we giveaway. Businesses along with private sponsors donate. The proceeds after paying for the event go to BRAVO, CERTNYC1 and the 68th PCT Community Council. It is that simple!So stop blaming Chip. If someone wants to wield the blame on me, go ahead. This was my idea to do something for the community. With regard to the music, I book them and they play for free. They represent some of the best bands in Bay Ridge.
July 16, 2011, 9:21 am
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
Frankie, i guess you forgot that no good deed will go unpunished.

Bay Ridge could use more good men like you and less limp wrist apologist who attack anyone that does something that doesn't fit their agenda..
it's good to see there's still someone with a spine in Bay Ridge.
July 16, 2011, 9:38 am
Paul from Bay Ridge says:
islam is a political ideology cloaked behind a religion and Linda Sarsour's Arab American Association is their political party hiding behind an ethnic curtain.
July 16, 2011, 9:54 am
Richard Rizzuto from Dyker Heights says:
A bunch of Morons run the Brooklyn Paper, I'm of Italian Descent ,and I wouldn't want to hear a band play Italian music, this picnic was to celebrate America's Independence not any particular group or ethnicity, U are the one's who are being racist by trying to push ur political agenda on our right to celebrate America with American culture not anyone elses, Give me a break the Brooklyn paper and that racist organization Cair why don't U both take a hike and print ur paper in islamabad.!!
July 16, 2011, 10:14 am
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
Be careful Richard, Murdoch may have Gersh tap your phone.
July 16, 2011, 11 am
Lindsay from Bay Ridge says:
If i have the priviledge to sing God Bless America next year, as I was So honored to do so this year, the Arab American Association Band is welcome back me up...the we can go right into America the Beautiful, The Star Spangled Banner and Yanked Doodle Dandy... !! This PC stuff is such a snore. Frankie and Chip organized a wonderful event.
July 16, 2011, 11:48 am
Lindsay from Bay Ridge says:
If i have the priviledge to sing God Bless America next year, as I was So honored to do so this year, the Arab American Association Band is welcome back me up...the we can go right into America the Beautiful, The Star Spangled Banner and Yanked Doodle Dandy... !! This PC stuff is such a snore. Frankie and Chip organized a wonderful event.
July 16, 2011, 11:48 am
James from Bay Ridge says:
The finances and backers of the Bay Ridge 4th of July event have been well-known for years now. Who are the backers and financiers (ie. Muslim Brotherhood?) of the Arab American Association of New York? Follow the money people!
July 16, 2011, 1:42 pm
McDormand says:
Bay Ridge was a different place in 1976, Frankie. Wake up and smell the coffee.
July 16, 2011, 2:02 pm
McDormand says:
I just re-read all these comments and teh bigotry and racism here really makes me sick!!!! I am ashamed of you people. You do not represent Bay Ridge. I have lived here for 50 years and for the very first time in my life I am ashamed.
July 16, 2011, 2:05 pm
George from Bay Ridge says:
Racism! Bigotry! Islamophobia! That's the typical cry of the muslim deceiver (CAIR) and the pc liberal fool. islam is not a race so where is the racism? islamic scripture and texts are vastly more political than spiritual, particularly regarding its relation ship to non muslims so why can't it be criticized? You should be more ashamed of the Arab American Association of New York, a muslim organization hiding behind the Arab race to advance their causes. Don't you get it? The Arab Association of New York does not represent Arabs living in New York. They represent muslims and the advancement of islam. The vast majority of the Arabs in the United States are either refugees of islamic persecution or, like me, the children of refugees. By offering an "Arab" (muslim) Band to play at the event the "Arab" (muslim) Association of New York's only goal was to create controversy and strife to use as propaganda for the upcoming 10th Anniversary of 9/11.

Of course, criticizing islam in anyway is haram so, whether it's from fear of blasphemy laws and death in islamic nations or from being labelled a racist, islamophobe, or bigot in the West... you WILL abide by islamic law and remain silent.

July 16, 2011, 2:31 pm
Jonah from Bay Ridge says:
How ironic that we are meant to feel guilty for celebrating our holiday our way when last week the Arabs had THEIR event on Shore Road and you couldn't help but listen to what passes for their version of "music" for blocks (as well as what sounded like angry rantings by the speakers - not that any of it was in English, but it sure was LOUD). Next year all the bands that played at Frankie's picnic should offer to play at the Arab festival. Or maybe they could have some nice Celtic music, or maybe even a Polish polka band? You think the Arabs will accept? Chip says that the Muslims are welcome to contribute to and attend the picnic and I'm sure if they do, they'll receive credit. To compare this event and its organizers to the KKK is such a stretch as to defy credibility. And thanks, Frankie and Chip. You did a great job and the bands WERE superb. Don't listen to the panderers.
July 16, 2011, 3:12 pm
Frankie Fan says:
If the Arabs don't like it, they can move the F out of Bay Ridge!
July 16, 2011, 3:31 pm
Joanne from Bay Ridge says:
The Fourth of July is an American holiday. To celebrate our great country and pride to be American. There is nothing ethnic about it. To call someone a bigot who put a lot of their time and effort to entertain people for free is ridiculous. I attended and there made no difference what your background was. Many nationalities and people of various backgrounds attended. We all waved American flags. We were ALL Americans that day, joining together in pride and respect for America. To single out ethnic groups would be dissecting the melting pot. And defeating the point of us joining together as one nation.
July 16, 2011, 4:05 pm
Rich from Bay Ridge says:
Hmm, what was the last Arabic song to make it on ANY chart? NONE, because it is cultural not POPULAR music. I agree that this group tried to hijack an event for publicity and probably never wanted to be a part of it at all. Sarsour makes sour grape leaves too!

Arab American,
July 16, 2011, 5:15 pm
Stephanie from 79th street says:
The Syrians have been in Bay Ridge for a long time. Longer than most of the people here I would wager. They had every right to be a part of the July 4th event. Who is to say who is allowed to participate and who isn't. That is like playing God. Frankly, the hatred and bigotry being spewed forth in these comments is sickening! Like someone said before, you should all really be ashamed! You all sound like a bunch of rednecks!
July 16, 2011, 5:41 pm
George from Bay Ridge says:
Please be careful, Neighbors,

Deceivers like CAIR and Linda Sarsour of the Arab American Association of New York want this conflict to be focused on race, nationalities, ethnicities, etc. when, in reality, it is between political islam and American culture. Don't identify "them" as Arabs, Syrians, Lebanese, etc. As i've mentioned before, most Arabs in the United States are refugees of islamic persecution. "They" are islamic activists exploiting the Arabic identity and American religious freedoms to gain victimhood status which WILL be used against us. We, your Arabic neighbors, are your American neighbors in body and spirit. The islamists Linda Sarsour represents are not. They are enemy to all of us.
July 16, 2011, 5:58 pm
Tommy says:
What is CAIR?
July 16, 2011, 6:01 pm
Bruce from Calgary says:
As a Canadian I find it noteworthy that the only ones supporting this decision are bigots themselves. After reading these comments I have yet to see one intelligent endorsement of the banning of one particular band simply due to their ethnicity.

And you Americans wonder why you are hated all over the World?
July 16, 2011, 6:15 pm
George from Bay Ridge says:
Actually, they expected to be hired based soley on their ethnicity, Bruce. It was a rouse but it sure did fool you.
July 16, 2011, 6:22 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
Brucie, isn't there a islamic problem in canada or is the Toronto-18 a soccer team.
if america is so hated why is everyone coming here, you included.
July 16, 2011, 7 pm
Jonah from Bay Ridge says:
Bruce: As a Canadian I find it noteworthy that the only ones supporting this decision are bigots themselves. After reading these comments I have yet to see one intelligent endorsement of the banning of one particular band simply due to their ethnicity.

And you Americans wonder why you are hated all over the World?

Bruce - Do you listen to Arab/Muslim music? Is it on your playlist? What Arab/Muslim bands are on your MP3 player? Can you name one popular Arab/Muslim song? No? Then, Bruce old lad, may I submit that YOU are a bigot!!!

Muslims (and any money they care to shell out - although MANY are receiving "entitlements" - courtesy of us infidels) are WELCOME at this picnic. We don't want Country and Western line dancing, we don't want the Mongolian Yeti Dance Troupe. We want ROCK AND ROLL!!! Crank it up, BABY!!
July 16, 2011, 7:03 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
Brucie, forgive me for leaving out england and france, i forgot them as i was busy putting on my hood.
July 16, 2011, 7:05 pm
Johnny from Bay Ridge says:
Muzfilth attacked us on 911. Muzfilth are building a mosque at Ground Zero to hijack it's meaning. Muzfilth tried to hijack July 4th in Bay Ridge.
July 16, 2011, 7:20 pm
Mike D from Bay Ridge says:
This strong arm nonsense about forcing Arab music down the throats of a forth of July picnic is posturing and jockeying for political position and Agenda. This is a local picnic sponsored by local friends and business's to aid charities such as Bravo. The people going ,want to hear Rock n Roll and enjoy mainstream American culture. They are invited to enjoy it with us and not force their culture and music on us. They can get the permits and do the heavy lifting and have their own festival and call it what ever they want and celebrate what they want. This is pure political agitation and there is a blowback from that kind of carp. They don't give a damn about the fourth of July and what it means to us, they don't give a damn about enjoying American Culture. They would be wise to not try to politicize it and use it for their agenda. They are pissing people off and that P.C. crap will not fly here. They are off base and They will have the anger of the community down their backs. This was about Americans celebrating an American holiday and they are welcome to join in but this is not something these clowns are going to turn into an ethnic day party event. they can create one if they like and then they better make all ethnic groups
available, or just have an ARAB DAY FESTIVAL .
July 16, 2011, 7:41 pm
Bobby D. says:
You tell 'em Frankie!!
July 16, 2011, 9:33 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Everything you need to know about the people who wanted to infiltrate our July 4th celebration:
July 17, 2011, 12:31 am
John F from Bay Ridge says:
To clear something up... No band was "hired"... every band, and every band member, have been playing rock, some for forty-five years, in this neighborhood. A fun day to celebrate an American National Holiday.

Everyone played for free. No band was paid... it was supposed to be a friendly get-together for Bay Ridge - everyone invited, no charge.

No shamrocks, no tarantella, no norse hats, it was an American celebration. In Bay Ridge, we do celebrate St. Patricks Day, Columbus Day, Norwegian Independence Day, more Greek holidays than you could imagine, and many others... those are the days that "ethnic bands" play. As a matter of fact, the same bands that played July 4th play many of these dates, and do play "ethnic music" suitable for those celebrations.

And for the clueless reading this giveaway trash paper, you might be surprised that Bay Ridge has had an Arab/Syrian/Lebanese population since the early '50s, when the Christian population of those countries were forced out by their Muslim countrymen. And we all get along.

Bruce from Calgary - nothing better to do than to read a local giveaway rag and throw your misguided opinions about? How many letters have you written to Quebec newspapers concerning their French/English hassles?

And to the two writers from Park Slope, your bias is showing. You have no clue as to what Bay Ridge is about. And to call a person a "bozo" based on a poorly researched article in a junk paper, you should be ashamed. Your neighborhood is not without it's own problems. (click on the F__ed in Park Slope link).

Tabitha "from Michigan" - nice state you have there... nice caring governor... I wonder how many kids are going hungry this week? You should clean your own backyard first, before responding to a poorly researched article. The KKK? Tabitha, Bay Ridge is a tremendous melting pot. Really, you are so clueless as to the makeup of this neighborhood that I should have just ignored your "holier than thou" spouting.

And, oh, yes, the crowd wants rock... not classical, not oompah, not lullaby's, not Arab - just a fun day of rock and roll covers, face painting for the kids, and... fun.

Frankie, with Chip and the Bay Ridge "rock and roll crowd" started this day four years ago, so really, no apologies are needed to be given to anyone if they feel "their music" is left out. Start your own ethnic party. Ours is an American celebration, by people of every ethnic mix, who leave their ethnicity home on the Fourth of July.
July 17, 2011, 1:02 am
Hepcat says:
Sorry folks but July 4th is supposed to be about more than just waving little American flags, listening to old white men playing Creedence Clearwater Revival covers and wearing Jorts.

These narrow minded comments belie your whole argument. A lot of you are very xenophobic and in a melting pot like America, I couldn't imagine a worse thing to be.

Everyone is an immigrant! Remember that next time you go telling a whole race of people to "move out" if they "don't like it".
July 17, 2011, 8:40 am
Jaded from BR says:
ha ha ha. 4th of July is about celebrating independence from the boundaries of "religion" and segregation of "cultures" and, we, as a country are still working on this.

Personally, if BR is going to diversify music-wise at this event, please get some R&B, hip hop, or jazz before including something that has never even seen the bottom of the "billboard."
July 17, 2011, 9:04 am
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
so all the people on this message board are going to participate in next July 4th HOT DOG EATING contest in Bay Ridge?
July 17, 2011, 10:11 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Yes to July 4th HOT DOG EATING contest!!!!

BUT make sure the hot dogs don't contain pork

pork is halal

forbidden in islam

that means it is forbidden in events they attend

and that means it is forbidden for us, too.

YES to July 4th HOT DOG EATING contest

but only if the muslims allow it
July 17, 2011, 10:17 am
jfitz from Dyker Heights says: a nutshell, if I want to hear Irish music, I go to the St. Patrick's Parade; if I want to hear Italian music, I will go tp the Santa Rosalia Feast; if I want to hear Arab-American music (which I don't), I would go to one of their festivals. However, a celebration of America--and NOT specific ethnicity, should feature non-ethnic music or sponsorship!!! Great job Frankie and Chip--stick to your guns!!
July 17, 2011, 11:56 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
No, JFitz. In a nutshell, Frankie and Chip stomped out the muslims' efforts to ASSERT islam into a BROOKLYN JULY 4TH CELEBRATION. Well done Frankie and Chip. Our country, our Congress and our Presidency needs individuals who don't cower to political correctness. Our country needs individuals like YOU!
July 17, 2011, 1:34 pm
Karen S. from Dyker Heights says:
I can not believe all that is written here. Everyone should be happy that they are able to attend this wonderful event on Celebrating our freedom in America. No one was charged, but it did cost these two fine Americans who put this all together so you can join in on the festivities too. You should be thanking them not bashing them. Shame on you!! Frankie Marra and Chip are good people. They did not exclude anyone from this event but you call them biggots. Why can't you just enjoy and thank them! Instead of being jealous you weren't a part of the line up of bands. This was an American Celebration and if you are proud to be here in America, you would be grateful to be allowed to attend in the celebration for FREE and should not call names to those who put it together. This was NOT a hate day-stop making it that way! I grew up in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn my whole life and it's "you" who have the nerve to bash my friends that makes you wonder why you are not a part of it. It is about love of your country. Love it or Leave it! I would like to thank everyone who made this event possible and again successful....and by doing so, helped our community. Can any one of you bashers say the same? How did "you" contribute to our community? You should watch what you're making "yourself" look bad.
July 17, 2011, 1:56 pm
Don from Bay Ridge says:
Arab - Americans "blasting" anything or anyone is not a good thing at all !!
July 17, 2011, 5:47 pm
Don from Bay Ridge says:
God bless Frankie,Chip & John F.And thank you for doing what you do!

NRPS @ OLPH 9/16
July 17, 2011, 6:15 pm
George from Bay Ridge says:
please, Linda Sarsour and her organization do not represent Arab Americans. They represent muslim Americans. Most Arab Americans are in America because they escaped islam.
July 17, 2011, 6:18 pm
Donald from Bay Ridge Brooklyn says:
Thank God for Chip,Frankie & John F & thank you

July 17, 2011, 6:19 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
next year open the event to all, the irish can play their music, the italians & greeks theirs and the muslims can stone their women.
this way every body goes home happy.
July 17, 2011, 7:58 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
All we need is love! Let there be peace, everyone!
July 17, 2011, 8:03 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
People in Bay Ridge regardless of ethnicity loves the Yankees and/or the Mets. Let focus what we have in common.
July 17, 2011, 8:17 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
it was just reported on al-jazeer that sarsour is going to build a mosque next to frankies house
July 17, 2011, 8:54 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
it was just reported on al-jazeera, sarsour is building a mosque next to frankies home
July 17, 2011, 9:01 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Funny that CAIR has this artical posted on their website--like this is a problem. What part of this is a non ethic celebration 4th of July event do they not get?? All they are doing is reinforcing that Muslims always need to push their islomophobia agenda no matter what. Its exactly opposite of the mesaage they need to push if they ever want to get middle america's acceptance of them as a group. Another thing they obvious dont get. A more clueless organization short of the ACLU it isnt.
July 17, 2011, 9:05 pm
Phil F. from Bay Ridge says:
What is with all of this bickering??? Why does everything come down to this??? July 4th is Independence Day if we forgot...This means FREEDOM, it means we have a choice, it means we are ALL AMERICANS...If these organizers that took the time and effort to do something nice we should be saying thank you...Is that not what Mom and Dad taught us as kids??? If fellow AMERICANS volunteer to help then that is from their hearts...UNCONDITIONAL....Hmmm...Thank You Marty and Vinny for putting up with all the cry babies who have something to say about EVERYTHING but have no solution to our problems...And to think we had none of these social activities years ago...I Phil F. would also like to salute my son Philip and Andrew B. and their close friends for recently enlisting in the United States Navy...They are our heroes and they are the ones who protect this very right we have...TO BICKER LIKE FOOLS!!!!
July 18, 2011, 8:25 am
Maureen SanFilippo from Bay Ridge says:
What a sensational and accusatory headline! How dare Linda Sarsour even try to make this event an ethnic/racial issue! I know about the picnic like every other person does, I read the flyers that are posted and the advertisement in the local papers. My mailman does not deliver a personal invitation. I am an Irish American living in Bay Ridge and have attended this picnic every year since it started and it is all about being 'AMERICAN" and celebrating the birthday of the United States of America. It's not about the Italians, Irish, Norwegians, Polish or any other ethnic group that attends. No reference or deference is ever made to any individual nationality. I wasn't flying an Irish flag at the picnic that day; it is a day to be proud to be an AMERICAN! It's about music, hot dogs, rides, water sprinklers,being with friends and neighbors, and good old fashioned AMERICAN fun. If she was truly proud to be an American, she'd keep her mouth shut. If she thinks she is being treated unfairly, she should take a look at the cause of her issue...........look in the mirror're trying to make something out of nothing!
July 18, 2011, 9:19 am
Charlie says:
Frankie and Chip did a good thing. They do it every year. But those of you who are coming to their defense are really embarrassing and you are making it worse with your narrow minded views and jokes.
July 18, 2011, 10:12 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
July 18, 2011, 11:24 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
This is the track Linda Sarsour wants for our neighborhood, our country:


During the 2010 election campaign conservative pundits and congressional hopeful Sharron Angle accused Dearborn of enforcing Sharia law.[21] Their comments came on the heels of the arrest and prosecution of four members of the Christian group, Acts 17 Apologetics, for "breach of the peace" at an annual Arab-American Festival held in Dearborn.[22] All the charges, except one of failure to obey a police order against one of the people, were thrown out by a jury.[23] A video (actual footage starting at 2:15)[24] of the event shows[25] the individuals talking calmly with festival attendees before being handcuffed. Two days later, four other people from the group were blocked from handing out copies of the Gospel of John in Arabic and English on a public street outside the Arab festival, forced to stop filming the incident, forced to give their information to police, and removed to at least five blocks from the periphery of the fair.[25][26] A 2009 video[27] by the same group shows[28] security guards assaulting the members while forcefully removing them from the festival the year before.
On April 22, 2011, Terry Jones (see 2010 Qur'an burning controversy) planned a protest outside the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan, but was required by local authorities to either post a "peace bond" in order to cover Dearborn's costs if Jones was attacked by radicals, or go to trial over the protest. The jury in the case decided to require the posting of a symbolic 1$ peace bond, but Jones and his co-pastor, Wayne Sapp, were imprisoned after refusing to pay, alleging that the requirement violated their 1st amendment rights. They were released later that night.[29] The ACLU has castigated the local authorities for violations of the free speech civil rights of Terry Jones, while maintaining opposition to the ideas espoused by Jones, and has filed an amicus brief in support of Jones' protest plans.[30]
On June 18, 2011, Terry Jones planned to speak against Islam at the annual Arab International Festival, but was turned away by protesters. Christian missionaries appeared instead, yelling insults at Arabs, Muslims, Islam, and Catholics through a bullhorn. [31]
July 18, 2011, 11:29 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
above quotes illustrate the sharia law that forbids proselytizing of any religion other than islam
July 18, 2011, 11:30 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Already in Brownsville, coming to Bay Ridge

"A Sydney man who was held down on his bed and whipped up to 40 times by strangers had recently converted to Islam and was reportedly being punished for drinking.
The 31-year-old was asleep in his apartment in Silverwater, in Sydney's west, when he woke to find four bearded men in his bedroom about 1am (AEST) yesterday.

Three of the intruders restrained him on the bed while the fourth man used a cable to lash him 40 times.

The attack lasted about 30 minutes and left the man covered in welts, the Seven Network reported today.

The man reportedly told police he had only recently converted to Islam and that fundamental Wahabi Muslims were punishing him for having a few drinks with friends."
July 18, 2011, 11:32 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Considering that islam is as much a political and legal ideology as it is a religion as well as a vile cancer that rots humanity from within, should we be allowed to ban mosques in our community"

July 18, 2011, 11:38 am
Jaded from BR says:
Wow Sammy. Did you kiss Herman Cain on the lips?
July 18, 2011, 12:01 pm
John T from East Brunswick, NJ says:
After viewing on YouTube, the highlights of the 5th Annual, Bay Ridge Arab American Bazaar, held on July 10, 2011 (event promoted by the by the Arab American Ass.), I would like to commend you on executing what looked like a really nice event. What struck me as odd is that Linda Sarsour did not look to include any classic rock bands; Italian, Irish, Norwegian bands not even one good Mariachi band could be found anywhere. So I ask, were they not a good fit, not appropriate or was this for the Arab community mainly (which is fine by the way)? The fact is Ms. Sarsour that you use the press to twist a perfectly normal patriotic event like the Fourth of July event to push your own political or religious agendas. You are an obvious hypocrite who slants provocative notions of racism to stir unrest. You actually are doing your community an injustice by this stance and should look to retract your statements.
July 18, 2011, 2:55 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
It's very important that we extend muslims the utmost courtesy and respect. Remember, what's ours is theirs and what's theirs is... theirs.

"SOLDIERS were banned from shooting Taliban fighters planting mines - to avoid waking Afghan locals, a former Royal Marine has revealed.

Craig Smith, 36, said US military chiefs routinely frustrated frontline forces by ordering them to exercise "courageous restraint".

Troops were even told they could be charged with MURDER if they shot anyone without permission from command."
July 18, 2011, 3:37 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
CAIR sure does have a lot to say about how we fight terrorism. Remember, terrorism has nothing to do with islam therefore anyone linking terrorism with the teachings of islam is UNFIT to advise our government in dealing with it. If "know thy enemy" is to work we need to ignore islam.
July 18, 2011, 4:12 pm
Railroad Bill from Botsville says:
This article and the responses to it on this board show the damage that liberalism and political correctness have done to this country!! The fools that want to paint the folks that want to have fun on the Fourth of July as bigots are just mindless liberal haters who think they are better and more enlightend that all others. The arab group just clearly wants to cause trouble and make their point.

The funny part that the main organizer, Frankie M is a hard left liberal just adds to the irony of the situation. So another event that people enjoy will be destroyed in the name of PC bull.
July 18, 2011, 5:22 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
In addition to being disgustingly cruel to livestock, especially considering the size of the population it serves, halal food is simply disgusting.
July 18, 2011, 6:30 pm
Don from BAY RIDGE says:
I want 1978 BayRidge again aahhh...Thing's sure would be better .and Bruce stfup!
July 18, 2011, 7:09 pm
you people just dont get it,and im sure that most of the complaints against the event are from the originators of the complaint using bogus americans names.this was a beautiful event done very nice with no ethnic groups being represented.everybody had a great time including the american arabs that attended the event.the place was packed and all enjoyed it,the next day there was an arab event and there were no outsiders trying to break up that event.this story was blown up by an envious person trying to make a name for herself and stuffing the complaint box with false comments just like she did when she got caught doin it for an award that was being issued by community.anyone who lives in bay ridge knows chippy and knows he backs all the events and all are represented fairly.just ask the arab community ,they come to him also,for help.come to our events in bay ridge before passing judgement,we throw a hell of a party and all have fun,except the rabel rousers,hope i spelled that right,some people just wanna make a name for themselves
July 18, 2011, 7:39 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
NY 1 is doing a piece on sarsour next monday evening. if i was frank or chris i would contact them and ask to be on the show, to counter any negatives she may try to present regarding Bay Ridge .
go get her guys
July 18, 2011, 8:06 pm
tupelo35 from windsor terrace says:
on previous post i addressed chris, it should have been chip.
the administrative offices number at NY 1 is 212 379 3311.
July 18, 2011, 8:50 pm
Zazi says:
linda sansour is a respected community leader and franki marra plays guitar in a cover band. who should we believe
July 18, 2011, 10:07 pm
Mary from Bay Ridge says:
Bigotry does take all forms. Even if the Arab-American group had come in, they'd be dressed different than other Bay Ridgeites. That makes them scary to bigots. No Shame in being who they are. Shame in not letting everyone held
July 18, 2011, 10:22 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
you see, the kufir aren't people. It's impossible to commit a crime against them.
July 18, 2011, 10:32 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Mary, are you one of those deceivers from the CAIR Facebook page?
July 18, 2011, 10:36 pm
john from bayridge says:
march 17th irish music.may 5th mexican music,may 17th norweigan music.june something, puerto rican music,JULY 4TH AMERICAN MUSIC.What seems to be the problem here;Oh i got it trouble making PC idiots..HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA AND MANY MORE.
July 19, 2011, 12:58 am
Francesca Miles from Bay ridge says:
I totally agree with Chip. The picnic is fine the way it is. An ethnic band would allow the event to become the newest political football in Bay Ridge. I go to the event to hear good old AMERICAN rock and roll not to get a lesson in political correctness.
July 19, 2011, 6:52 am
Frankie from Bay Ridge says:
I would like to comment and clear some things up at this time. First of all, I express no resentment or ill will towards the Arab Community or Linda Sarsour. The one thing that I don't understand is where this ranks in the importance of Arab American relations? I modeled this picnic concert after "Willie Nelson's 4th of July Texas Family Picnic". The key word is "Family". Families bringing down a blanket and having a picnic in a community style manner. All ethnicities, all cultures coming together under the American tradition of a Family Picnic. I know that State Sen. Marty Golden and Councilman Vinny Gentile were mentioned with regards to the concerns from the Arab American organization, but they really have nothing to do with it other than they support it and sponsor it. To Railroad Bill, I am a liberal Democrat and my partner Chip is more conservative, which makes this a perfect example of how community comes together. To Zazi, most people in Bay Ridge will attest to my involvement in the community. I formed the largest benefit to Save Our Memorial Day Parade and raised over $20,000 when it was in trouble financially and will do it every year including the first $1000. out of my pocket. I welcome your donation next year. To my friends who have kind words about the event including Chip and myself, Thank You. To Dan MacLeod, I've enjoyed many of the Paper's articles and even promoting my event but the Title of the article is so typical of the Owners of this paper, namely Murdoch. The title is so mis-represented, it's sad. "Banned On The Fourth". So tell me Dan, who was banned? Could Linda Sarsour or any member of the Arab American League come down and not enjoy all the festivities that everyone else did? I respect Ms. Sarsour as I do you Dan, but really... was it that slow of a day, that a Family Picnic became a target. It's just sad.
July 19, 2011, 8:51 am
George from Bay Ridge says:
I cannot emphasize enough that Linda Sarsour and her Arab American organization do NOT represent American Arabs. They represent MUSLIMS living in America. Most American Arabs are refugees from muslim persecution.
July 19, 2011, 9:25 am
Justin from Bay Ridge says:
This is complete nonsense let me tell you. If a newspaper is going to print an article like this they need to have proof. There is no proof, you can't just take the word from an activist that is known for spilling lies all over our neighborhood streets. The event was to celebrate being an American...not an Arab American...not an Italian or Irish was for being an American so eat your apple pie, beef franks and leave the meatballs and falafel at home.
July 19, 2011, 10:46 am
I am sorry I was at the concer as a worker for the 68TH PRECINCT YOUTH COUNCIL and a guest...WE all worked very hard for this great event. Chip and Frankie did a great job and every seemed to enjoy it.. This event brought family and friends together to celbreat America birthday. There were all racies and religions their.These newspapers have nothing else to write about so they pick on this wonderful event that people worked so hard on. What about the poor child that was just killed. Maybe the newspapers should focus on that since it was not to far from here. STOP picking on our event.
July 19, 2011, 10:51 am
Barbara from Bay Ridge says:
There are so many nationalities and religions represented in the musicians who volunteer their time to play in this rock and roll celebration of July 4. This article is really inflammatory journalism. The bands that play have traditionally played this event for free and there are many more bands in Bay Ridge that don't get to play because there is only so much time that day. I only know Frankie and there isn't a prejudiced bone in his body. You should have talked to everyone involved, Mr. MacLeod, before ever putting pen to paper. Shame on you for trying to sell newspapers by impugning the reputations of good honest people.
July 19, 2011, 11:31 am
Anthony88 from Staten Island says:
As long as they were willing to sing "God Bless America", I'll let them play.

Keep in mind, the 4th represents freedom. I'm Italian American, and I have no problem with Arab Americans making a life here in the states.... As long as they respect the American soil.
July 19, 2011, 11:37 am
mike from brooklyn says:
we were afraid they bring their OWN FIREWORKS
July 19, 2011, 11:55 am
Paul from Bay Ridge says:
This the 2nd year I have attended and had the honor of playing with my band at this annual event. I see people of all ages and from diverse backgrounds coming together to have a great time. That's what the event is about. I thank the organizers for all the time and effort it takes to pull off an event like this. They should be commended...not stepped on.
July 19, 2011, 12:06 pm
Carol P. from Bay Ridge says:
I have lived in Bay Ridge for most of my life and have seen many changes. When I was a child, Bay Ridge consisted mostly of Irish, Norwegian and Italian people who "assimilated" into the American way of life and were glad to do so. There were also a good deal of Lebonese and Syrian residents, many of which I was friendly with in school. All these groups were not considered and did not consider themselves as anything but Americans.

As time passed and "sensitivity" to one's background and the need to "perserve culturalism" reared it's head, we now had to almost downplay Americanism and pay homage to other ethnicities as "separate entities".

American should celebrate America on Independence Day. If you are living in America and are sharing part of the American dream, i.e., making a good living and enjoying the freedom of so many things that it affords, no matter where you were born, you should be able to put your particular "ethnicity" aside and celebrate a country that has given you so much.

American Arabs are well respected and should not feel that they are isolated from others. If you want to get along with us, then please don't make a stink about something that was clearly made to be something it was definitely not.

There are many particular ethnic groups that celebrate in Bay Ridge and we all enjoy going to the various celebrations.

Bay Ridge is a tightly knit community which has shown solidarity by it's continuing display of benefits for causes, parades and festivals, all of which the residents completely enjoy being part of. On St. Patrick's Day, we all feel Irish. On the day of the Norwegian Day Parade, all feel Norwegian and so on.

Frankie Marra, Marty Golden,Vincent Gentile and Chip Cafiero all put their heart and souls into these various events and have nothing but the best interests of Bay Ridge as a whole at heart. This to me, is the bottom line.
July 19, 2011, 12:13 pm
mike from gravesend says:
thats it keep blocking my comments
July 19, 2011, 12:56 pm
mike from bay ridge says:
the only reason why our bands dont play the hookah bars in bay ridge is because our type of music we feel would not be appreciated just like arab music WOULD NOT have been appreciated on july 4th
July 19, 2011, 1:01 pm
michael from staten island says:
i know while all our hearts were breaking on 9/11, THEY WERE DANCING LIKE IT WAS NEW YEARS IN FRONT OF THE MOSQUE ON FOREST AVE THAT DAY im sure CAIR was giving out cigars THAT DAY TOO
July 19, 2011, 1:11 pm
Brian from park slope says:
July 19, 2011, 4:01 pm
Martin B. from Marine Park says:
Nice place this Bay Ridge, nice people, shame on you Bay Ridge!
July 19, 2011, 4:41 pm
tupelo35 from windsor says:
Martin, nice place marine park, they only shoot kids there, shame on you marine park
July 19, 2011, 5:26 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
CAIR is raising a stink here demanding the rights of Muslims of course-- yet funny you didnt hear word one from them when Christians could'nt show up at a Dearborn Michigan Muslim day festival-- in fact they were escorted out by Muslims. Obviously cultural diversity was not wanted or welcomed. As usual CAIR pushes for Muslim rights, but have no interest in everyone else rights at Muslim events. Sounds about typical of CAIR's good works.
July 19, 2011, 6:36 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Mojo, in muslim countries Christians who pass out pamphlets are killed. They might get away with a beating if their only crime is not concealing their crosses.
July 19, 2011, 8:20 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Sammy, Muslims constantly demand their rights and expectations of equality and CAIR looks for Islamophobia everywhere. And of course they find it. But as seen above--they give no respect in return. And yet they still wonder why middle America doesnt trust their motives. This is a perfect case in point.
July 19, 2011, 11:15 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Mojo, check out the CAIR Facebook page... The lies and deceit and utter hypocrisy vomiting from the members of that board are astounding. I politely asked one question about the Assyrian community in Lebanon, my parents birthplace, and i was banned from posting. muslims on the CAIR page CONSTANTLY whine about discrimination but are incapable of hiding their vitriol when Hinduism or Judiasm is mentioned. What's even more amazing is how frequently they use the word "islamophobe"... a joke of a word and a joke of a concept. Anyone who criticizes or even questions islam is designated a racist, bigot, or, goodness gracias, an islamophobe. Shouldn't we all be phobic of ideologies which claim to be perfect, divine and forbid questioning or changes?

Questioning islam is haram, forbidden under sharia law and CAIR attempts to enforce that law multiple times every day by labeling critics of islam as islamophobes, bigots, racists and demanding they be removed from their forum, i.e. CAIR demands they be silenced. Of course, in islamic countries, like pakistan which receives billions from the US, critics of islam are convicted and executed under blasphemy laws. I encourage everyone to look into what actually constitutes blasphemy when muslims are in control... e.g. a Christian man dropped a business card with the name "mohammad" on it and was arrested, convicted and jailed because he "purposely" disrespected the prophet by allowing his name to touch the dirt. Of course, we all remember the teddy bear incident.

The truth is that MOST of islam needs to be at least seriously questioned for obvious reasons. Yet, ask a muslim about the dark side of islam (which is the vast majority of it) and they respond in complete denial, "that's not islam". That IS islam, just ask the dozens who die in the name of islam every single, every single day since mohammad walked out of his cave with his lies. Denial or deceit...

I am a Christian and I say "YES, there is much in Christianity which needs to be reconsidered and changed (and it IS changing, evolving). Find me one muslim who will say "YES, the koran and hadith contain much which needs to be reconsidered" and you will have found me the one muslim I will trust. Of course, a muslim who says such a thing will be killed as commanded by sharia law.
July 19, 2011, 11:55 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
This is an incredible quote regarding homosexuality from the most "moderate" muslim on that page. Is this woman completely ignorant of what happens to homosexuals under sharia or is she manipulative and deceitful? I have no doubt that she is a liar, after all, the quran (the literal word of god) instructs her to lie to non muslims in order to advance islam.

"Jennifer Haynes Khedr ‎@Curt, We believe homosexuality is a sin because it destroys the family life. Humans (like almost all species) need both male and female to continue the species. We hate only the sin, not the person commiting the sin."

"We hate only the sin, not the person commiting the sin"

Incredible.. these are the words of a moderate muslim living in America (there are NO muslim Americans).

BTW, i never saw what Curt wrote since all his posts were deleted and he was banned from CAIR's page.
July 20, 2011, 12:01 am
mojo from Forest Hills says:
Sammy, Ibrahim Hooper, head of CAIR, is one of the most disingenuous clowns out there in the "race relations" game today. He makes Reverend Al look almost genuine and honest. He objects to ANY profiling of Muslims or Arabs in airports at ALL. He objects to the 20 state laws already in place against Sharia law-- he whines that they are laws looking for a violation. If he didn’t want sharia law -- then why object to such laws at all if they are so innocuous?? In fact he has been supposedly quoted stating that Sharia law could work in the US. Me thinks he doest protest too much. He labels anyone that doesnt agree with him and CAIR-- that they are Islamophobic and bigoted, but as I said--he has no problem with christians being manhandled out of a Muslim day event. Can you imagine his outrage if Muslims were treated accordingly out of a christian day event? They demand respect from all and yield none to anyone. But I enjoy it-- to put a clown like this in front of the american public--they actually make their case against their own behavior -- for us. Canary in a coal mine.
July 20, 2011, 12:40 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Want his view on Bin Laden??

Ibrahim Hooper, director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the debate "centers on the nature of the individual himself than on the actual burial procedures."

"There's a part of human nature that says even a person who has done bad and evil things deserves a decent burial," he said.

Enough said.
July 20, 2011, 12:54 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Mojo, you give CAIR, hooper and muslims living in America too much credit ;)
July 20, 2011, 1:31 am
henry from bay ridge says:
muslims are ruining the world and political correctness is laying down the red carpet for them
July 20, 2011, 6:52 am
henry from bay ridge says:
Um Kirfa (Fatima bint Rabeea bin Bader AlFazarri, also spelt Umm Qirfa) was a woman who became the governor of her tribe and a symbol of pride, social status and respect, as more than fifty swords that were gifts from the leaders of tribes hung in her house. Um Kirfa had twelve sons . Unfortunately, Mohammad’s followers attacked her tribe by "hiding through the day and creeping during the night" . Um Kirfa and her gorgeous daughter were captured by Mohammad's followers. Muslims were against the idea of a woman governing a tribe as Mohammad said “A nation headed by a woman shall never succeed” so they tortured her alive by tying her legs to two different camels running in opposite directions, tearing Um Kirfa in two.
They then chopped up her body and presented her head as a gift to Mohammad in Medina. Mohammad ordered that Um Kirfa’s head be shown throughout the streets of Medina to teach people a lesson. Mohammad gave his uncle Hoozan bin Abi Wahab the daughter of Um Kirfa to entertain himself.
July 20, 2011, 11:05 am
Robert from Bay Ridge says:
Hah, this whole thread is wild!! I love the morons who get so angry about what they think "Muslims" or "Islam" (or Arabs" really are. Go get to know some different types of people. I bet Chip, the organizer, would hate to know a bunch of bigots are making him sound like them - he's prob a decent guy who made a choice he didn't want to have to make.
July 20, 2011, 1:26 pm
Pat from Bay Ridge says:
It wasn't Americans who were dancing in the streets on 69th Street and 5th Avenue the day the towers fell...You want to be treated with respect, show some....Do half of you know Chip.....He passed out tickets for the ride to EVERY child to went up to him....the were families of different ethnics in the park all day.....I can't believe it, anything to start any trouble
July 20, 2011, 1:51 pm
Sally from Bay Ridge says:
I can't believe what I am reading. Dont blame the newspaper, blame the person who was quoted. It was their words. Now, yes sometimes things can be misinterpreted but my God the comments here are disgraceful. What is being an "American" mean? What is American music? Brittany Spears? The Beatles? Michael Jackson? Let's be clear that this country was built on the backs of immigrants, let's not forget the backs of slaves we brought here and treated like 3rd class citizens. Don't let the fact that we have a black persom as president fool you that we are over racism of blacks. Do u even know who this band was before you turned them down? Maybe they were a band made up of Arab Americans but were going to sing "American songs"? I am sure u didn't even get that far! Never tell people to hang their ethnicity at the door - it's part of who they are. There should be a town hall or something to discuss this issue.
July 20, 2011, 2:07 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Pat, islam is a political ideology cloaked as a religion, period end of story. Criticizing it for exactly what it is: supremacist, misogynic, genocidal, and violent is not bigotry despite how desperately CAIR wants it to be. islam has not changed in 1400 years and it is no different here. When muslims are weak they are quiet and compliant, make temporary treaties (hudna), and lay low. As they gain demographic strength they start to impose islam with increasing aggression (e.g. from Linda Sarsour's deceitful claims to no go zones for non muslims in France and Britain). When muslims are strong they will expunge, persecute and/or exterminate non muslims (every single muslim majority nation on earth). My parents and most Arabs in the United States fled their ancestral lands to escape islam. What happened to Lebanon in the 60s is already happening in Europe and just beginning to happen in the US. Only ignorant fools see otherwise.
July 20, 2011, 2:22 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
PS. And I'll be damned if i sit quietly and let ignorant accusations of bigotry and racism and muslims like Linda Sarsour and the vile people she really represents (muslims, NOT ARABS) destroy my neighborhood and my country like they destroyed Lebanon.

nazism addressed god and the supernatural but criticizing it is not bigotry! islam is NO DIFFERENT.
July 20, 2011, 2:30 pm
Joey Bots from Bots Land says:
Unless you are a bearded hipster you are not going to get a fair shake or be covered in a positive by the Brooklyn Paper.
July 20, 2011, 3:06 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Sammy You are preaching to the choir here. But look at Robert above. Typical liberal that is clueless to all threats--just get to know them-- maybe you will like them! History and past behaviors be damned. So why dont you put your head in the sand just like me attitude. Look back at the liberals in the 30's and their attitude was just the same. History repeating itself.
July 20, 2011, 3:24 pm
Sue from Bay County says:
Cafiero said, “We’re more than happy to take their money"..... omg... what a horrible person. He wants to take their money and do what he wants. America is for everyone Cafiero... not just you! Americans from all ethnic groups have the right to celebrate the fourth of July how they like, not how you like Mr. Cafiero! That's so un-American!
July 20, 2011, 3:26 pm
Sue from Bay County says:
What you talking about Pat? I live on 70th and 5th avenue. No one was dancing on 69th Street and 5th Avenue the day the towers fell. Civilians from all races and religions died on that day. No American celebrated that. Americans were horrified that day. Images that show people celebrating in America are a lie. Make sure you have a reliable source before saying something horrible like that.
July 20, 2011, 3:31 pm
Sam from Bay Ridge says:
As an Arab and a Muslim American, I declare that Linda Sarsour does not represent my community or me. She is a known liar and a self-centered hypocrite. This is just a publicity stunt for her to fulfill her political aspirations. I support Chip and Frank and the Bay Ridge 4th of July Picnic. I know Chip and his dedication to Bay Ridge.

I must also share that I am very disgusted by the bigots and hatemongers who have commented on this. I just hope that people understand that this is not a reflection of Chip or Bay Ridge.
July 20, 2011, 3:48 pm
OumRobbee from Dyker heights says:
Some of your comments are not very "American" what happened to "the land of the free". Who really is just "American". We all come from some kind of background. Was it going to Hurt them if they allowed ethnic groups to participate? NO! Why not add some flavor to the same boring oh we really care about our independence so let's get drunk. We are celebrating Americas independence but obviously from some comments Arabs/Muslims shouldn't be apart of that. You should all go ask about Linda Sarsour and what she does for NYC as a whole and maybe learn a thing or two on what it is to be a real American.

PS not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs. Some of you should go get educated.
July 20, 2011, 3:57 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Sam As a Muslim glad to see you see the truth and call out Linda. Good for you. Bigots and hatemongers? America my man-- we all have a right on a point of view. Dismissing them and their view by calling them names? Un american. Maybe try presenting a better or alternative point. Might just work for some.
July 20, 2011, 3:59 pm
Frank from Bay Ridge says:
Dear Bay ridge Arabs and musilms in general stop trying to push your agenda and ideology by using our politically correct ways against us. All you are doing Is fanning the flames of hate against you. You will never win. sharia law will never prevail against Freedom and American ideals. I shop in muslim owned business and I eat in muslim owned resturants. there is no hate in my heart for anyone who wants to contribute to American society but forcing your culture on people will only turn them away never to return.
July 20, 2011, 5:12 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Frank, You boiled it down nicely to the bottom line. Correctly. And individual Muslims like Sam above get it and there are ( I hope) plenty of them like minded. But organizationally, Muslim culture is about conquest and rule. Look at Britain, France, Canada, Sweden, Netherlands etc etc etc. See a pattern? Yep. US is now the front line in this fight and how we respond--the world is watching. Both the Muslim radicals, as well as non Muslims. What message do we want to send?
July 20, 2011, 5:37 pm
Jim from Park Slope says:
My band, the Windsor Terrors, was fortunate to have been chosen by Frankie to play at the July 4th picnic.
All the bands who played that day have played the Bay Ridge circuit (Greenhouse, 3 Jolly Pidgeons, Bally Bunions) over the past five years. It is a very close knit group of musicians who support each other by attending each other's gigs and occasionally sitting in. There is never any discussion of ethnicity even though there are Irish, Italian, African-Americans, Jews, and even Arabs in this group. Not every group playing the circuit did the show. There was only room for 7 bands. To have some other group come along and demand that they be included is presumptious on their part. It was a rock festival. There was no place for ethnic bands.
July 20, 2011, 6:24 pm
Melly from Bayridge says:
I guess the country got it's independence but not it's people. Most of you are turning this into something it's not. WTF does 9-11, terrorist, Muslims have to do with this? No one wants to be apart of this crappy useless countrys July 4th celebration anyway. Independence my butt. Look what America does on memorial day they BBQ. Seriously? People lost their lives fighting for this country on all you do is BBQ. Go check your morals Americans. I am loling at the Arab muslims that are with the crap everyone's saying. Get off the want to be wagon you sad excuse for an Arab/Muslim.
July 20, 2011, 6:58 pm
Daoud from Downtown BRooklyn says:
I was disappointed that an Arab band offered to play and was turned down because the organizers didn't want the event to be "ethnic." What is America if not ethnic? We are no less united if we are of different ethnicities. No one should feel they must leave their heritage behind on the Fourth of July or any day. I would think the Bay Ridge event would have been one where all the different ethnic groups in the area could come together and perform and party together, celebrating what we have in common (our American identity) and our differences (interesting as they are). What a celebration of America that would have been!

By the way, I'm an American who's of very mixed heritage, part of which is Arab, and I'm gay. For those who commented on how welcome I'd be among Arab-American organizations: Arab-Americans are highly educated, sophisticated people. I have never felt excluded from an Arab event because I'm gay. Of course there are homophobes among Arabs, but we needn't paint all Arabs or all members of any ethnic group with one broad brush.
July 20, 2011, 7:14 pm
hristopher McEvoy from Dyker Heights says:
Interesting how both the organizers of the event and Linda Sansour have been directing their supporters to come here and leave comments. You can tell the ones who were sent here by Mrs. Sansour and the ones who were sent here by "Frankie" and Senator Golden. The comments left by Linda's supporters are open-minded and constructive while the comments left by Senator Golden's people and "Frankie's followers" are full of hatred, bigotry and fear. It is a very sad sign of the times.
July 20, 2011, 8:45 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
"Christopher" it's so easy to identify excrement from CAIR. They can't help but vomit words like "hatred" and "bigotry" and "fear (islamophobia)" in the name of cohesion when all they really want to do is single out and divide. Like the quran instructs, the world is full of believers (us) and non believers (them).

The liar, mohammad, said "war is deceit". CAIR and their whore, Linda Sarsour are filth and so are you, "Irish Christopher" from Dyker Heights.
July 20, 2011, 9:28 pm
Chris McEvoy from Dyker Heights says:
I am filth???!!!? Next Monday night July 25th at 8:30pm, Linda Sarsour will be profiled on NY1's "One on One" with Budd Mishkin. This is a show where they profile the best and brightest of New York. Where will you be next Monday night "Sammy"? At the Bally Bunions drinking with your racist friends and Frankie Marra's "All American" band?
July 20, 2011, 10:02 pm
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Linda Sarsour is a CAIR whore, a professional agitator whose only purpose is to impose islam and/or create strife. Neither she nor her group, the Arab American Association of New York represents me, a non muslim Arab American. Most Arab Americans are no muslim. We are refugees or the children of refugees who fled violent and relentless islamic persecution in our own ancestral lands. Sarsour has hijacked "Arab" so she can link the Arab race to her political jihad.

You are either well meaning but extremely naive OR a disingenuous plant from CAIR, a sarsour groupie, or yet another PC McCarthyist branding any defense of ethnically neutral Americana as some sort of racism, bigotry or free speech.

Which is it?
July 20, 2011, 10:37 pm
Bucky says:
Is Sarsour really going to be on NY1??
July 20, 2011, 10:54 pm
OumRobbee from Dyker Heights says:
Stop saying MUSLIMS dont accept gays because obviously the American government dont accept either! How long has gays been fighting for the right to have gay marriages? I'm Muslim and I dont judge people by their ethnicity, religion, or sexual prefrence. Stop putting 9/11 on us Muslims as a whole! One person doesnt define Islam or Muslims. Get educated people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 21, 2011, 12:43 am
OumRobbee from Dyker Heights says:
Mr.McEvoy Your comment holds a lot of truth!
July 21, 2011, 12:48 am
Jenn from Staten Island says:
Listen! Where did all your ancestors come from? Surely not America! Answer that?
July 21, 2011, 1:04 am
Cyrus from Uptown says:
Jenn, did your ancestors all come from America? Fascinating...
July 21, 2011, 1:42 am
jenn from staten island says:
Cyrus No! That was my question for you and the rest of the people talking about being American to answer...Only idiots answer questions with another question!
July 21, 2011, 3:04 am
jenn from staten island says:
^^Ignorance at its finest
July 21, 2011, 3:04 am
Doha from Brooklyn says:
WTF Linda sarsour was just trying to make everybody gather up and spend their time with the family you idiots are so stupid and have no life to blame ms sarsour for a good deed she's doing you all make me sick !!!!!!!
July 21, 2011, 4:51 am
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
ever since the first messages on this dumb article, people in China have built another miles of high speed rail and planned many new towers.
July 21, 2011, 7:59 am
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
Hey, oumrobbee fake muslim
July 21, 2011, 9:30 am
Sammy from Bay Ridge says:
Doha, are you well meaning but extremely naive or are you a liar and/or CAIR plant?

tell the truth
July 21, 2011, 10:07 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Bottom line in this discussion above proves one thing for a fact; Clash of Muslim and Western cultures does one thing with certinity -- it divides people.
July 21, 2011, 11:17 am
Nick from Park Slope says:
Frankie the organizer says he modeled his event based on "Willie Nelson's 4th of July Texas Family Picnic".... that sounds like a KKK rally to me! I'll tellya one thing, it doesn't sound like a very "welcoming" or "united" event thats fer sure
July 21, 2011, 1:40 pm
Stan Corin says:
I think it is wonderful that Linda will be featured on NY1. She is really doing some great things for the community and that is the God's honest truth.
July 21, 2011, 1:57 pm
John from Bay Ridge says:
Nick from Park Slope,

Your honesty in revealing your belief that everyone who listens to Willie Nelson and/or is from Texas is a member of the KKK is much appreciated. I now feel better revealing that I believe every single muslim is willing to send their children off to blow themselves up so as to slaughter as many of Allah's most hated enemies, the infidels, as possible so that they can do in heaven what all muslims dream of doing in life: drink unlimited amounts of wine and screw up to 72 virgins (muslim, of course).
July 21, 2011, 3:14 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
John, You got that mostly right except they now drink a Bin Laden, not wine, which consists of 2 shots and a splash...
July 21, 2011, 5:48 pm
Vic says:
The hate and discrimination I see here is no different than the hate and discrimination your ancestors faced when they got to Ellis Island. History repeats itself. It is too bad that we all don't learn from it instead of making the same mistakes over and over again.
July 21, 2011, 5:55 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Vic Some major differences you conviently ignore. Those immigrants came to the US for its freedoms and opportunity. They didnt come as part of a culture bent on world conquest and domination- a small difference that gets past apoligist liberals such as yourself. If you dont get that message- maybe do some reading on Muslims behavior in moving into Britain, France, Canada, Sweden, Netherlands etc etc etc in the past 10 years. So I agree its too bad we dont learn from history to avoid the same mistakes. Unfortunately you and your liberals are the ones that are not learning.
July 21, 2011, 6:06 pm
OumRobbee from Dyker Heights says:
Henrey you're very childish! I don't need to prove anything to you! I guess you are showing everyone what it is to be a real AMERICAN- RACIST, RUDE, SELF CENTERED, and FULL OF HATRED. Go drink to that since that's what you drunkys are used too.
July 21, 2011, 9:10 pm
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
OumRobbee, muslim (i.e. liar),

What race am I against? Tell me, what RACE do i hate?
July 21, 2011, 10:45 pm
OumRobbee from Dyker Heights says:
Henry all you're doing is making a fool of yourself. Go be productive and leave me alone. I'm free to say and be whatever I want.
July 22, 2011, 12:10 am
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
And I'm free, too. All you muslims are the same. You lie and deceive and cheat and conspire. allah is the only god that instructs his followers to lie. I find that incredible. islam is a disgusting ideology. You vermin respond to any truths about islam screaming "racism" hoping that your fake victimhood will deflect the fact that you, your prophet, and your ideology is a violent disgusting evil cancer of humanity. mohammad is an example of what would happen if Charlie Manson got his way. I see you, muslim.
July 22, 2011, 12:43 am
OumRobbee says:
You're digesting! I pity people like you! I don't need some irrelevant nobody to make up stories about Islam. I know my own Religion! Look at The American government! Some of the biggest liars and deceivers! Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was a beautiful man. Maybe if more people were like him we wouldn't be having this discussion. They only people I see that lie, deceive, hate, and conspire is America and it's people. Yup! MUSLIM AND PROUD!
July 22, 2011, 4:13 am
Nasri says:
The moral of the story is "never trust a senior citizen in denim shorts"
July 22, 2011, 7:23 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Oum If you really feel that way about America and Americans --then you are living proof why Americans dont trust Muslims. Why would you live here?? Get out and go back to the worthless middle east crap hole you came from.
July 22, 2011, 10:24 am
OumRobbee says:
Mojo 95% of Americans feel the same as me. It's not about being Muslim it's about stating the truth.
July 22, 2011, 10:47 am
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
sharia law applies to everyone! Man, woman, infidel, donkey........
July 22, 2011, 10:51 am
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
China knows how to deal with its muslim problem. I predict a steady but rapid disappearance of the muslim cancer from China over the next 10 years.
July 22, 2011, 10:55 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Oum So answer my question. Why in the hell would anybody--no matter what your religion-- migrate to a country they fundamentally disagree with? Why put yourself thru it. Why put us thru it? More Muslim illogic.
July 22, 2011, 11:03 am
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
I guess the fact that 100% of violent rapes in Norway over the last 5 years were committed by muslims against non muslims (mohammad considered non muslim women fair game and allah said mohammad's words and deeds were an excellent example of conduct) wasn't enough to convince the Norwegian government that they had a muslim problem. Perhaps the bombing of Oslo and simultaneous executions at a YOUTH camp will wake them up. Hopefully, Norway will have a sit down with China who rounds up and exterminates their problems.

multiculturalism is a FAILURE thanks to ONE particular group. America, WAKE UP!!!!
July 22, 2011, 12:19 pm
Danny says:
Next Monday night July 25th at 8:30pm, Linda Sarsour will be profiled on NY1's "One on One" with Budd Mishkin. This is a show where they profile the best and brightest of New York.
July 22, 2011, 3:28 pm
Mutter Man from West Briton says:
So - all u muzzi defenders - What do you have to say about Oslo - why is Islam so violent? Why do you liberals defend Islam blindly???

Remember - Islam is as Islam Does!!!
July 22, 2011, 5:15 pm
Bill from Brooklyn says:
The music played is rock and roll. If she has a good old fashioned rock band, maybe they can entertain. Otherwise come on down with your family, food, American flag and enjoy the party with all the other immigrants, their children,grandchildren and great grandchildren. We are all from immigrants. We are Americans.
July 22, 2011, 6:22 pm
Dalila says:
Y don't all you cry me F-in river.
July 23, 2011, 3:11 pm
mcguinn from bay ridge says:
no sure if it's true, but if you google 'linda sarsour' websites link her family to hamas
July 24, 2011, 3:29 am
Kittycat from Bayridge says:
I'm American of Italian decent. If I'm going to a celebration for the 4th...I really don't want to listen to any other kind of music but AMERICAN IN ENGLISH! A street that's different. The 5th ave festival, 3rd ave, one stops anyone from playing thier music. If anything ethnic music makes the street have more flavor. There is a time and place for everything. People need to get off thier "poor me" political correctness agendas and just take things at face value. Call me a bigot, racist, etc...I don't care. When my Dad came from Italy he couldn't even read the Italian newspaper on the train without someone calling him a "Guniea" or snatching it away! GROW UP PEOPLE!
July 24, 2011, 1:20 pm
James from Bay Ridge says:
What costs 99cents and smells like poo poo? Any store on 5th Avenue in the 70s. LOL!
July 24, 2011, 4:53 pm
Melissa says:
Norway massacre- Christain! Eat that people!
July 24, 2011, 6:49 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Whats your point Melissa?? The first terrorism event in the past 5 years that hasnt been Muslim lead--and you want to celebrate? I knew the losers like you would come out of the woodwork.
July 24, 2011, 8:43 pm
Melissa says:
Mojo you're the only loser out here. The only terrorism I have seen is that of the American Government! You fools can't see the truth behind it all. You damn skippy I'm gonna celebrate! Married to a Muslim for 11yrs now and learned so much. Christianity is bull and Jesus is not God or Gods son! You all will see the truth one day but don't let it be to late. Salamo 3alaikum!
July 26, 2011, 3:47 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Looks like you haven’t learned enough yet. Celebrating terrorism--oh that’s right --Muslims danced on 9/11 too. I don’t want to see any truths you are looking at. Big deal--some worthless brainwashing has been done on you for now--you were probably a colossal loser when Islam found you--now you are just another colossal Islamic loser. No big accomplishment there. Or big loss.
July 26, 2011, 11:53 am
Mr. P from Brooklyn says:
Hey commenters, i found this great piece on Sarsour... should "shed some light" on things...
July 26, 2011, 4:36 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Melissa, You just prove one point--- You cant make a silk purse--out of a sow's ear. Perfect for a Muslim such as your self.
July 26, 2011, 7:31 pm
Henry from Bay Ridge says:
Melissa, i look forward to the day when we leave political correctness at the door and do to you what your child raping prophet did to Umm Kerfa. When that day comes someone just like me will put an end to you, your filthy children, and the disease that is linda sarsour and islam.
July 26, 2011, 9:21 pm
Gurnsey says:
Islamophobia is not American.

The Constitution is not in danger because of moderate Muslims --- the Constitution is in danger because of the paranoid and narrow-minded people leaving comments here!

It seems you are all too eager to deny Muslims the guarantees of religious freedom and the presumption of innocence. Your words are hateful, disgusting and the very anti-thesis of what America is supposed to be.
July 27, 2011, 7:22 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Gurnsey Who died and made you Gatekeeper and Master of consitutional interpretation for all of us?? Surely not me. Islamophobia? Is that the same as Naziphobia and Communistphobia? Did you read the Muslim comments above about celebration towards terrorism? You may want that coming down your main street --but I do not. You want to roll out the red crapet to a culture that is ruining Norway, Britian, France, and the Netherlands--but I surely do not. And I have the same constitutional rights as you to express that. And I will put my America up against your liberal interpretation anyday.
July 27, 2011, 12:02 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Gurnsey Lets see where multicultural presumption of innocence got France, Britain, France, Netherlands, Philippines, Trinidad & Tobago, Ethiopia, Bosnia, Chad and Lebanon. Picking up a pattern here? If you can't- it’s because you can’t read perhaps. So now you want to roll out the same red carpet with the same expectations and then expect different results? Liberal insanity at its finest. And then what? Make them all go back home? How would that play out Mr. Constitutional scholar? Maybe we need to teach you how not to play in traffic first for you to get the concept.
July 27, 2011, 3:21 pm
Bobo says:
Frankie Mara, ladies and gentlemen.
July 27, 2011, 8:47 pm
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
Anyone notice another Fort Hood terrorist? I hope you're all watching your muslim neighbors very closely. Watch their every move. Write down their comings and goings. Write down descriptions, license plate numbers, times of their visitors. Follow them when you get the chance. Write down their destinations. I recommend installing wireless webcams aimed at all entrances of their homes. Random checks are fine. Log, save and back up all this data and forward to the FBI when necessary. And the day IS coming when it WILL be necessary.

To linda sarsour and her hamas family............ the day IS coming.
July 29, 2011, 10:27 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Oh boy Jonathan-- you are sure gonna get the Muslim liberal supporters panties in a bunch with that call to action above. But seriously, when is the political will in this country going to override political correctness and someone can say-- it makes NO sense to have muslims in our Military. How many of our own must we lose at home-- until common sense prevails? Muslim culture and our culture cannot co -exsist. How many examples do we need until the can be said out loud? American Muslims are like what is read above-- they rejoice in terrorism-- or they stay 100% silent. Eirher way-- liberals defend them.
July 30, 2011, 2:29 am
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
That is why the Norway dude did what he did. What is ironic is that he admired the koran's approach to warfare and admittedly adopted it's strategies.

Linda Sarsour is not a human rights' activist hero. She is a deceiver and a liar and an enemy of every single kuffir in Brooklyn. She needs to be treated as such.

Watch your muslim neighbors. Watch and document their every move.

We must do everything we can to eradicate the muslim enemy from Brooklyn WITHOUT breaking American law.

muslim = enemy at every strata of our existence

when a muslim speaks to you it is lying to you
when a muslim speaks about you it is plotting against you

Ground Zero is NOT about the muslim enemies' rights to build a mosque. Ground Zero is about the innocent victims of a muslim jihad attack.

There have been 17500 jihad attacks since 911

muslim = enemy
July 30, 2011, 9:41 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
How come we didnt have any Nazi's in the U.S. Army when we went to war against Germany? Because that generation had a clue. Ours--not so much. Thus- Muslims doing their thing while we look like politically correct idiots. Shameful.
July 30, 2011, 1:48 pm
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
Did you know that sharia law forbids non muslims from fighting for the muslim state. In fact, under sharia law non muslims are not even allowed to own weapons.

it's about time we start treating the enemy, muslims - all of them, the way their god tells them to treat us.
July 30, 2011, 8:26 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Well of course non muslims cannot build anything close to a church in Muslim lands. Period. End of discussion. Yet of course they demand this relgious tolerance of us--right down to the 911 Victory mosque. Liberals of course say --we have to prove we are better than that. I say -- we cant we have the same expectations of them? Why with Muslims is it ALWAYS a one street. Yet liberals defend that as well.
July 30, 2011, 9:55 pm
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
liberals will do everything possible to silence the opposition

as in the words of Winston Churchill

The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists.

This pc liberal multicultural political correctness people like the scum who defend linda sarsour are the reason that Anders Breivik believed he need to do what he did to be heard

and to do what he did to save his country, his continent.
July 31, 2011, 9:44 am
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
By the time most of this country awakes to what Muslims are up to and covered up by the liberals--it may be to late. But I hope not. What say you Jonathan
July 31, 2011, 1:52 pm
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
It won't be too late. Europe will implode soon and from that we will learn.
July 31, 2011, 2:47 pm
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
ps. When Europe implodes i bet you someone hangs linda sarsour
July 31, 2011, 10:14 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Well lets hope so. We are going down the same path as Europe. Hopefully we will have time to put that genie back in the bottle. But Muslims will cause us hell before we get there-- while we will figure that out--hopefully in time. But between their using our own laws against us--and ignorant liberals standing up for them every step of the way--I am not so sure.
Aug. 1, 2011, 4:18 pm
Jimmy from Bay Ridge says:
It was a rock show !!!

If the Arab band played rock, let them play.

If not, they don't play.

I don't get the problem.
Aug. 3, 2011, 7:57 am
hanna from bay ridge! says:
i see it now that frankey marra is putting the blame on the reporter who wrote the article and he is saying the reporter is the one trying to divide the community. can you believe the lies? listen, we all know it was frankey who tried to divide the community when he told the generous arab americans that they were too "ethnic" and that they were not welcome at frankey's confederate flag picnic. the reporter was just doing his job and making a living reporting the news. did you know a bad carpenter blames his tools...........hanna 26 years old bay ridge
Aug. 3, 2011, 10:10 pm
Bob from Clinton Hill says:
This comment thread makes me sick. Thanks for reminding me why I never go to Bay Ridge...
Aug. 3, 2011, 10:16 pm
Bob from Clinton Hill says:
We get along with our muslim neighbors in my part of Brooklyn and don't resort to calling them jihadists or terrorists. What the hell is wrong with all you people?
Aug. 3, 2011, 10:18 pm
Jeff from Clinton Hill says:
Speak for yourself, Bob. Until the mohammadens in Clinton Hill stop blaming America and Israel and Hindus and everyone and everything except muslims for all the tension I won't trust a single one of them. They're liars and deceivers and i'm far from the only one who is keeping close tabs on them.

Aug. 6, 2011, 11:39 pm
David from Forest Hills says:
Mohammedans!!!! Get the F OUT!!!!
Aug. 7, 2011, 8:11 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
So lets see if I get this right Bob. You refuse to recognized the danger and you want the rest of us to live in your self delusion? No thanks. Your liberal delusion is exactly what Muslims count on. Your welcome to it--but you can count me out. I am not Islomophobic. I am not afraid of them. But i am certinly not decieved by them either.
Aug. 7, 2011, 9:37 pm
Me says:
Man, people just dont get along easly.
Aug. 10, 2011, 12:39 am
Mojo from Forest hills says:
Muslims certinly know how to stir that pot. Want to see where America is headed for in the next 5 years thanks to Muslims? This is how Muslims behave when they get to a country--and what they will behave like now they are here. They did it in France, Britain, Norway and netherlands. Next stop--USA.
Aug. 10, 2011, 1:15 am
David from Forest Hills says:
There will be a violent backlash against the muslim infestation within the next 5 years. I'm saving my umph for then :)
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:46 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
Then what? Send them back where they came from? By then most will be "Americans". No place to send them back to. Major FusterCluck.
Aug. 12, 2011, 12:52 pm
Mojo from Forest Hills says:
And they will have won by then--their goal is to keep citizens tied up in their own courts--which of course they will have already done.
Aug. 12, 2011, 1:48 pm
Jonathan from Bay Ridge says:
They got one of the Bay Ridge vermin :)
Aug. 18, 2011, 12:21 am
Loser says:
Holy Sh-t, Frankie. LET IT GO already. Give it up old timer
Aug. 19, 2011, 8:22 pm
Jackson from Bay Ridge says:
Don't let Brooklyn become like London! Shoot a muslim today!
Aug. 22, 2011, 12:03 am
Jackson from Bay Ridge says:
You don't let them share your amusement park. You kill them.... like they filthy stinking vermin they are.
Aug. 30, 2011, 10:34 pm
Jackson from Bay Ridge says:
Want to know where those three terrorists are hiding? Look no farther than your neighborhood muslim cockroaches' homes. al qaeda has a whole network of support in NYC, including linda sarsour.
Sept. 9, 2011, 8:34 pm

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