September 29, 2010 / Brooklyn news / Politics / Bay Ridge / Committeman Confrontation

Are Kevin Peter Carroll’s pants on fire after flip-flopping over Lopez?

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Read his lips — he’s not a reformer.

After months of railing against the borough’s Democratic Party establishment, Kevin Peter Carroll’s first act as Bay Ridge’s newly elected Democratic district leader was to cast his ballot for party boss Vito Lopez last week.

“I guess actions speak louder than words,” said Chris Owens, himself a newly elected district leader who sought to unseat Lopez as county chairman, but fell in a 47–3 landslide.

He probably thought he had an ally in the 24-year-old Carroll, who defeated Bay Ridge’s longtime Democratic District Leader Ralph Perfetto on a platform of anti-Lopez reform.

But besides himself, Owens only received votes from Brownstone Brooklyn District Leader Jo Anne Simon and Assemblywoman Inez Barron, an East New York district leader and wife of firebrand Councilman Charles Barron (D–Canarsie).

Carroll’s vote for Lopez came as a rebuke of the reform movement of which he seemed to be at the vanguard.

He began his career in public life as the founding member and president of Brooklyn Democrats for Change. When he ran for district leader, his website was filled with demands for reform.

“There is a crisis of confidence in the leadership of our party and we must organize so that the Democratic Party will stand again for those values that brought us to it,” he wrote. “Democratic public officials must behave as Democrats or be removed if they are only interested in special interests and their own re-elections.”

During a webcast debate at our CNG offices, Carroll described himself as the “independent candidate” and lambasted Perfetto for being Lopez’s horse in the race.

“Vito has endorsed Ralph Perfetto,” Carroll said. “He’s the party candidate and I’m the independent reform candidate. I’m not happy with the direction county is going. I believe in reforms and the county organization needs to be reformed.”

Carroll beat Perfetto with 62 percent of the vote. And in the wake of his subsequent vote for Lopez, Perfetto is now crowing that he was actually the reformer.

“Maybe that’s why everyone wanted me out,” he joked. “I was too much of an upstart for them.”

Carroll claims that he’s still an independent, even if he thinks Lopez is OK.

“Reform is not about getting rid of one particular person,” Carroll said, claiming that he not only voted for Lopez but also for all the internal party reforms raised at the meeting. But he didn’t approve of Lopez’s push to add 11 unelected loyalists to the party leadership, he said.

“Reform is about process and I will work with anyone to reform the process,” he said, adding that he did not vote for Owens because he “had only been in office for a week.”

Lopez also promised to devote party resources to right-of-center Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst, where Democrat incumbents fight off Republican challengers.

“Vito never asked me to vote for him — we never had that conversati­on,” Carroll said. “But he’s going to make sure that we come together and get our Democratic candidates elected. Vito’s predecessor [convicted Assemblyman Clarence Norman] couldn’t find south Brooklyn on a map.”

Updated 5:20 pm, July 9, 2018
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tee gee from sunset park says:
what a hypocrite. so sad to see someone so young be such a liar. in the old days, it would mean he was perfect for politics. but bay ridge voters are smarter than that, they will dump him. but wait, if they failed to come out and vote for ralph perfetto how smart could they be? in my 60 years, i have never seen or met such a class act as Mr. Perfetto. If you look in a dictionary under "style" or "grace" or "loyalty" and a half-dozen similar adjectives you would see a picture of Mr. Perfetto.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:04 am
Janet from Bay Ridge says:
Kevin wasn't THE founding member or even A founding member of Brooklyn Democrats for Change. He was an incredibly self-promoting, lying, disruptive influence who ran the club into the ground after he was elected president.
Sept. 30, 2010, 12:17 am
Tony from Bay Ridge says:
This kid is a janitor right and see what his new job is. Probably something easy at the Board of Elections or some other kind of patronage job.
Sept. 30, 2010, 1:05 am
Larry from Bay Ridge says:
Hey is that cousin tony commenting? I wonder who could he be related too?
Sept. 30, 2010, 1:29 pm
New World Odor from Bay Ridge says:
It would appear to me that there are two types of young politicians in Brooklyn these days. There are the reformers and the unemployed. The reformers aren't afraid to take on Vito Lopez because they have jobs and are gainfully employed. Whereas the unemployed are afraid to challenge, and stand up to, Vito because, quite simply, they are looking for a hand-out. Cue Kevin Peter Carroll.

Kevin Peter Carroll walked proud and talked loud about rejecting the “powers that be” but once he was elected, it was a different story. Once he realized that if he supported Vito he'd have a better chance at getting some bullshit job with the Board of Elections or County, he changed his tune. And now Kevin Peter Carroll walks lockstep with the “powers that be”.

No one spends $20,000 to win a volunteer position unless they have ulterior motives.

Kevin Peter Carroll, I'm sorry but this is no time to mince words: You are full of —— and everybody knows it.
Sept. 30, 2010, 2:39 pm
Beacon from Bay Ridge says:
Everyone knows Kevin lied.

Everyone knows Kevin's daddy spent over $15,000 to win his son an election for his 25th Birthday.

Everyone knows Kevin has never held a job in his life and has been promised a job by Vito Lopez after reading his script at Saint Francis.

Everyone knows Poppa Carroll's cronies set Ralph Perfetto up with Scott Shifrel at the Daily News. The "Cousin Vinny" case was pending for 2 years until Carroll tipped off Shifrel and Dan Donovan.

I guess Team Carroll is fine with helping out Dan Donovan by smearing Mr. Perfetto. So long as Kevin Carroll (a.k.a. Verucca Salt) gets what she wants.

Shame on you, Craven Carroll.
Sept. 30, 2010, 9:35 pm

When I saw the hit pieces that K P CARROLL [alias KID POISON] CARROLL sent out just before the Primary day election, I called him to discuss the matter and he said, point blank, "I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT!" As a result, I placed an ad in the Bay Bridge Courier, after the election, to tell him publicly what I thought of him and his negative, dirty politics campaign.

This soft-spoken, smiling, hypocritical kid, epitomizes the worst that exists in politics today. He is a venomous, self-serving, greedy piece of [Sam Houston Institute of Technology] and you can make your own acronym. His attempt to start a political career and how he acted and ran his campaign, is a precursor and warning to all of us, as to what to expect from him, if he ever runs for elected office again. WE HAVE ENOUGH OF HIS KIND OF ELECTED GARBAGE IN OFFICE NOW, AND WE DO NOT NEED TO ADD TO THE MESS THAT EXISTS IN NEW YORK AT PRESENT.

In this City, the Primary IS THE ELECTION, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT COME OUT TO VOTE IN SEPTEMBER. As a result, you get what you deserve, because you do not bother to vote when you have to. I can only say to you, that when you go to vote in the future, if you see the name KEVIN PETER CARROLL on the ballots, DO NOT MAKE A MARK BELOW HIS NAME UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

I sincerely hope that you will remember these comments and act accordingly, the next time you go to vote. If there is one thing we do not need to perpetuate, it is the negative, dirty politics, that CARROLL practices and used in his campaign. People like him to not belong in any position in government. It's a shame that we have to put up with him now. This area in Brooklyn has the largest group of seniors per square mile in America, and hopefully, you will use the years you have lived and the accumulated wisdom therein, by going out to vote and not being taken in by the negativism and dirt that is put out by politicians like CARROLL at the last moment.

Oct. 1, 2010, 1:01 pm
GreenGenes from Bushwick says:
As someone who attempted to run against Perfetto himself when I was a Democrat who later ran for offices as a Green, I think this is a good example why it is nearly impossible to reform the Democratic Party from within.

Granted building the Green Party is difficult but I do see slow but steady progress. That's something I never saw as a Democrat.

It is sad that KP Carroll would not stand on principles of reform whether it be fear of punishment or offer of reward. At the same time I congratulate Chris Owens, Inez Barron and Jo Anne Simon for willing to risk retribution from the "leadership" for their desire to bring integrity from within.

Whatever our political affiliation, we need to build so that those with integrity are elected with primary interest to serve the public rather than just themselves.

It's interesting to note that both Owens and Barron have been supportive of third parties. Perhaps Simon can develop her own base outside of "leadership" as well.

I think at some point "we" need an open and frank discussion about reform.
Oct. 3, 2010, 2:33 pm
Larry Whorish from Bay Ridge says:
Kevin must be sweating bullets. His meal ticket, Vito, isn't doing too well. I hear Kevin prays for Vito every night. I'd be praying too if I were Kevin. He sold everyone else out and tied his wagon to Vito's. If Vito is gone, Kevin will be all alone. Poor kid.
Oct. 5, 2010, 8:36 am
Herny says:
Kevin tried to pack CBID and failed so he moved to Bay Ridge and packed a club there and was successful. That's how his "career" started.
July 10, 2011, 6:10 pm

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