Another mosque-erade at Sheepshead Bay Islamic site

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More than 200 residents and Brooklyn Tea Party members and 100 supporters of a mosque and Muslim community center clashed in dueling rallies on Sunday at the site of the proposed cultural center in Sheepshead Bay.

In the latest flare-up over the Muslim American Society-sponsored project, Voorhies Avenue was again split down the middle, with anti-mosque demonstrators — and their anti-Muslim signs — set up on the north side of the two-way street while mosque supporters rallied on the south side of the block between E. 28th and E. 29th streets.

“Islam is welcome here,” one sign read.

“Don’t hate me because I don’t hate Muslims,” read another.

Most anti-mosque speakers were quick to defend themselves from the charge that racism or anti-Islam sentiment motivates their ongoing battle against the four-story proposal — but the signs they carried and the rhetoric they used told a different story.

“People from the mosque will be praying in the street,” insisted Susan Gerber, a former public school teacher. “People living on the block will have to step over them.”

Brooklyn Tea Party founder John Press, who rallied against the so-called Ground Zero mosque last week, again raised the specter of foreign domination.

“The mosque is founded by a very scary organization and the Constitution does not guarantee the right of a foreign nation to build a mosque in our country,” Press said.

It’s unclear if Press had merely forgotten the First Amendment, but one member of his protest group did recall the Constitution’s barrier on government suppression of religion — he just chose to ignore it.

“We don’t need to watch Sheepshead Bay get raped by people using the Constitution who are not even from this country,” said Andrew Cardnas, a 25-year-old neighborhood resident.

Nearby, a man who refused to give his name held a sign reading, “Hamas Kills, MAS gives them money. They have blood on their hands.”

This isn’t the first time that the Bay People group has protested the mosque. The group, which organized last year, also demonstrated at the Muslim American Society’s school supply give-away on Sept. 5 and held a rally in June, which featured a bomb threat. No one has been able to show a connection between the Muslim American Society and terrorism.

Opponents have also argued that the mosque will bring too much traffic to a mostly residential neighborhood.

“People coming from outside of the community to protest are just causing trouble,” said Steve Peskin, who lives across the street from the planned mosque. “It is not their issue, it is a local issue that involved traffic and parking problems.”

But mosque supporters, organized by the non-denominational New York City Coalition to Stop Islamophobia, derided the anti-mosque speakers as anti-Muslim.

“These Brooklyn Tea Party and Bay People members are shocking,” said Frances Paula Minichello, a Sheepshead Bay resident who participated in the pro-mosque demonstration. “This neighborhood should welcome everybody.”

Even claims that the faithful would be bowing toward Mecca on the street was dismissed by supporters.

“We’ll have a building, so I don’t think we’ll be praying in the street anytime soon,” said mosque project manager Ibrahim Anse, who added that he expects construction to begin in about a month.

Updated 5:20 pm, July 9, 2018
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Dave from Park Slope says:
Don't these "Tea Party" clowns fancy themselves to be libertarians? How do they square that with their wacky opposition to religious freedom? Or are they just concerned about the "traffic?"

All these nutjobs should crawl back under their rocks. This is Broolyn: we welcome everyone who comes in peace.
Sept. 27, 2010, 8:29 pm
SheephseadBayMan from SheepsheadBay says:
Most of the muslims I see in stores are using Food Stamp cards, the ones I saw in line in Coney Island Hospital were holding medicaid cards. They are not needed in America at all. They are parasites. First a few muslims move in to your neighbourhood, then they build a mosque, and then as their leader wrote "all residents will flee the neighborhood and we'll buy their houses for cheap". That is their goal. They don't need a mosque. If they love their islam so much, they should have stayed in their filthy third world country. Instead they come here and incite religious and racial hatred. Hopefully with the collapse of US economy there will be more then a few citizens willing to physically deal with them when police and politicians will no longer be around.
Sept. 27, 2010, 9:13 pm
Lisanne! from Sheepshead Bay says:
The "Tea Party" only stands "against" things. They can't be positive about anything.

Sadly, they are attracting a lot of people who are also angry. Angry is the mood of the moment, and the Tea Party knows how to play and expand upon it.
Sept. 27, 2010, 9:14 pm
not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrori says:
not all Muslims are terrorist, but most terrorist are Muslims...
Sept. 27, 2010, 11 pm
TacoBalls from Bushwick says:


most peons that stir chatter have bad aim.

see you on the field, bud.
Sept. 28, 2010, 6:03 am
Rob from Greenpoint says:
Maine: Muslim teen sets off chemical bomb near mosque -- nothing to see here
Islamic leaders told police that the explosion was just a 13-year-old "experimenting." What was the kid trying to do? "Teenager responsible for chemical bomb near Islamic Society of Portland," by Helen Dailey for, September 22:

PORTLAND, ME (NEWS CENTER) -- Police say there were no injuries or damage caused by a chemical bomb that went off in a parking lot near the Islamic Society of Portland.
The bomb went off in the lot between the Islamic Society and Back Bay Grill around 8:00 PM Tuesday night. Portland Police say Islamic elders came forward to tell them that a 13 year old from the Society was experimenting and was responsible for the bomb. Another bomb was also found undetonated....

Just a young Muslim at a mosque experimenting with a bomb. In Maine. What's to be concerned about? It isn't as if mosques have ever been centers of violence elsewhere, right?
Sept. 28, 2010, 9:30 am
JenShroder from facebook says:
Let's look at what the Houghton Mifflin textbook wrote about the Cordoba Mosque in Spain. What do you know, it has a shoutout:

"The Great Mosque at Cordoba"

"The great city of Cordoba demanded a great mosque. The building begun by Abd al Rahman I in AD 785 eventually became the third largest mosque in the world. Twice the wall facing Mecca was pushed outward." [This could prove ominous for the southeast buildings from Feisal Rauf's Mosque.]

The textbook continues: "The courtyard and mosque, open to each other, allowed Muslims to feel Allah's invisible presence whether they were inside or outside the mosque."

Let's flip to the Christian Unit to find something similar to Allah's presence...let's see... "Tacitus shared the Roman view that Christians should be convicted (death) for their "hatred against mankind." No, that can't be it...

Back to the Cordoba Mosque in the textbook, who was this Abd al Rahman I? It leads into the Cordoba Mosque section: "Although there were many Muslims in Spain, there was no unified Muslim government. [new heading] UNITING MUSLIMS IN SPAIN: By 756 the Umayyad forces in Spain, who did not support the new Abbasid caliphate back in Baghdad, accepted Abd al Rahman as their leader. With this Umayyad help, Abd al Rahman was able to establish an independent Muslim kingdom."

Just what we need, a unified Muslim government/kingdom overlooking 911. I shuddered when I heard Rauf talk about "good" Christians and Jews. There is so much America does not know about Islam!
Sept. 28, 2010, 2:19 pm
ElCid from Sheepshead Bay says:
God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

Quran 2:89-2:90, "The Cow," Dawood, p. 13
When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.

Quran 9:5; "Repentance," Dawood, p. 186
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.

Quran 9:73, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 198

Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.

Quran 9:123, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 206
Sept. 28, 2010, 6:46 pm
ElCid from Sheepshead Bay says:
Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy...

Quran 8:59-60, "The Spoils," Dawood, p. 183

Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. God does not guide the wrong-doers.

Quran 5:51, "The Table," Dawood, p. 116

Believers, know that the idolaters [non-Muslims] are unclean. Let them not approach the Sacred Mosque after this year is ended.

Quran 9:28, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 190

The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

Quran 98:6, "The Proof," Dawood, p. 598
Sept. 28, 2010, 6:49 pm
Rachel from Windsor Terrace says:
I am sick of the ignorance and hate. It's like WWII and the treatment of the Japanese-Americans all over again. Enough! :(
Sept. 29, 2010, 6:51 am
Andrew from Sheepshead Bay says:
Why to build a mosque in a middle of a quite,residential area? Why to jamm four-floor "community center" between one and two-family houses? Why to insist on puting a mosque at a block with no Muslim families?
Only for one reason - to change the demographics of Sheepshead Bay, quickly and legally.
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:24 pm

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