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The city is moving ahead with a controversial plan to establish a second historic district in Carroll Gardens — a plan that critics say would only make it more expensive to preserve the very buildings that the city hopes to save.

The Landmarks Preservation Commission revealed last week the working boundaries of the proposed historic district — an area bounded by Court, Henry and Huntington streets, and First Place — that would dwarf the existing postage-stamp-sized zone bounded by President, Carroll, Smith and Hoyt streets.

A second zone is unnecessary, said John Esposito, co-founder of the anti-expansionist group Citizens Against Landmarks.

“Landmarking will force the old-timers out,” he said. “All the new people who have $100,000 income a year think this is a great idea.”

But a study by the Independent Budget Office suggests that landmarking does not, in itself, cause higher home prices.

Supporters said a second district offers the necessary protections benefiting both old-timers and newcomers.

“This will make it harder to tear down historic homes,” said Bob Furman, president of the Brooklyn Preservation Council.

Homeowners in a historic district must get approval from Landmarks for any exterior alteration, which often adds to the cost of the work.

Indeed, concrete magnate John Quadrozzi cited the additional cost and extra bureaucracy when the city fined him for allowing two historic properties in Cobble Hill decay to the verge of collapse.

Landmarks spokeswoman Lisi de Bourbon described the new area — which is supported by the Carroll Gardens Neighborhood Association and the Brooklyn Preservation Council — as “a natural extension of the existing district,” though the two zones are not contiguous.

The boundaries of the new zone are not set in stone yet, and could still be expanded or contracted, depending on the agency’s findings. Establishing the new district is expected to take years.

Carroll Gardens was rezoned last year to discourage oversized growth, and supporters of the district’s expansion say it is critical to add another layer of protection to foil developers who would otherwise run roughshod over the neighborhood’s unique aesthetic.

Updated 5:19 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Hoody from CG says:
Look at those women, they sure belong to an historical district, oh my
July 19, 2010, 4:34 pm
fh from pp says:
What about the beautiful buildings from DeGraw St to 1st Place and from Court to Smith Street -- were these excluded for political reasons or under the table payments???
July 22, 2010, 5:02 am
ds from cg says:
It is time to get the "old-timers" out -- people who don't make $100,000 should move out of Carroll Gardens -- if you can't afford the high cost of renovation, SELL AND MOVE.
July 22, 2010, 5:18 am
joey from cg says:
No problem with the much higher cost of renovating my building -- I just pass the cost to my tenants -- increase their rent by $500/mo so we can all enjoy the more expensive neighborhood
July 22, 2010, 8:12 am
BevD from red hook/carroll gdns says:
DISGRACEFUL- WHY SHOULD OLD TIMERS- MOVE OUT- BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD HIGH COST OF RENOVATION- WHY- THESE SO CALLED BUILDINGS-THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT FROM HIGH COST BUYERS WHO RENOVATE- WOULD NEVER HAVE HAD A BUILDING TO BEGIN WITH- THIS IS NOT A SLUM NEIGHBORHOOD- WE ARE GENERATIONS-THAT HAVE KEPT UP WITH PRESERVING OUR HOMES- SO- WHO ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD SELL AND MOVEEEEEEEE.
WHAT ARE YOU BRINGING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD- NO CONSCIOUS-MONEY HUNGRY -DEVELOPERS.
July 28, 2010, 11:27 pm
Dee Gee from Red Hook/South Brooklyn says:
I am with you BevD, these people come and want to change everything, why did they move here in the first place?

You are right we are generations they have kept up with the houses. They should thank the old timers, or just move out and give us back what they have taken.
Aug. 4, 2010, 2:12 pm

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