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Rhetoric overheated! Locals attack, defend Sheepshead Bay mosque on our Web site

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The ongoing fight over the proposed mosque on Voorhies Avenue in Sheepshead Bay is causing a stir both on the street and on the Web.

About 200 people rallied against the house of worship on June 27, but far more activity was registered on our Web site, where commenters compared the mosque supporters to terrorists. Here’s a fair synopsis of the comments, both pro and con:

• “It’s getting old to associate Muslims with terrorists. Not every mosque is associated with bombings. Is every church associated with molestation of boys from priest? No, I don’t think so.”

Amarra [No neighborhood given]

• “Supporters of the mosque are using a race card to get public sympathy. The fact is that vast majority of local residents don’t want increased traffic, noise etc. on this small street in Sheepshead Bay. They paid a premium to live in a quiet residential neighborhood, which would be no more if mosque building plans (or any other public community center) come to fruition.”

— John Anders from Brooklyn

• “[The protestors] need to move to Arizona, where they can hate to their heart’s content.

— Richard Grayson

from Williamsburg

• [The] community simply does not want a mosque there. At least in some places, we see a real community with common goals. And they support each other. And they have every right to protect their quality of life.”

— Dave from Brooklyn

• “How hateful could you possibly be to make a comment like this? ‘If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque.’ I don’t want to assume that this former Israeli solider is Jewish … because, how could he be a Jew and make such comments!? It was not too long ago that they lived through something very similar. I know Holocaust survivors who explain the hate and discrimination they lived through. When you know it’s so wrong to do, when you know it happened to your people, how could you do it to others?”

— Zuleyha from Westchester

• “I don’t think the former Israeli soldier said that he would bomb. I believe he meant that the mosque would one day be a big bomb because some suicide idiot will blow himself up inside.”

— Yuri from Brighton Beach

• “I would be very careful with the mosque construction. Islam often enters neighborhoods not to assimilate but to totally replace other ethnic groups. Pluralism is frowned upon in the Islamic faith (and much of Islamic culture today).”

— Jason from Memphis, Tenn.

• “I really am so tired of the whole characterization of Muslims as an invading army, attempting to change America from within. People who say that — in the name of patriotism, no less — have so little faith in the power of American ideals, government and culture.”

— NB from Sheepshead Bay

• “Wow, Bay News, thanks for supporting your community — not. I remember when the Bay News was our neighborhood’s newspaper and lived up to its slogan, ‘Your Neighborhood. Your news.’ Now it’s ‘Your Neighborhood. Someone Else’s News.’ Not everyone here is a racist. We don’t want the traffic and we don’t want the terrorists.”

— Billy from Sheepshead Bay

Updated 5:19 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Marci from America says:
We do not need yet another Mosque built on U.S soil. Enough is enough of this so called peaceful religion. Is it peaceful to marry young girls, NO! It's called pedohilia. Do we want this taking place in our backyards. No! Do we want so called "honor" killings which by the way is MURDER taking place in our backyard simply because the family deemed SHE shamed them. Sickweing how its always the girls. Do we want these people chanting over and over again, Kill all Infidels in our backyards? NO! I wish all you Liberals and Progressives would take your blinders off and start sticking up for America.
July 6, 2010, 12:38 am
Lorane from America from So Cali says:
The point people are missing here is that there will be noise, 5 times a day, calling the muslims to prayer. If you want your community neighborhood that you live in to remain QUIET, then you must stand up and say no and those of you who don't live in the neighborhood should support their choice to keep their neighborhood quiet. Put yourselves in their place, ok?
For those of you uneducated in the muslims belief system, I challenge you to get educated. The men have all the control to kill and maim the women and young girls. They still excise the female gentalia, kill young girls/teens who want our way of life, marry off their daughters to strangers.
This is not a religion of peace, it is a cult. Definition of a cult: any organization that controls the behavior of the group, using fear and intimidations. I am sure those who want to build the mosque can find another place to do so. They just want the neighborhood for themselves and believe me, if you live there, you will be moving out.
July 6, 2010, 12:48 am
Sharon from Tennessee says:
I agree with Marci's comments. We do NOT need Islamic mosques in this country. While I don't agree with a lot of other religions, I have no problem with them having churches. However, with Islam I do have a problem. Because they are NOT a religion, they are a dangerous cult that teaches hatred of ALL non-Muslim believers. Not all Muslims are filled with hatred, but it only takes one to destroy an entire neighborhood, & way of life. And, from all the news about European countries, when they move into neighborhoods, they do not try to assimilate with the community, but try to force the community to assimilate into the Muslim way of life.
July 6, 2010, 12:56 am
Shane (Convert to Islam) from Sheepshead Bay says:
I as an American am still shocked that people still remain so ignorant about the Islamic faith after so many years.Did everyone forget that we have the INTERNET? go to an Islamic website or a mosque and ask about Islam. How much longer are you all going to buy the cheap propaganda that makes everyone hate everyone else who is not of a specific ethnic background or a specific faith?

I took the time to investigate Islam away from the Muslim haters and found that it was really an amazing faith with a great civilization. After I learned the truth about Islam I became a Muslim. I'm not telling anyone to go my route but at least give your fellow human beings some dignity and respect.

People will come to pray and leave. A Mosque is never loud. After 7 years as a Muslim i would know about that...
July 6, 2010, 12:57 am
Abu AYmen from Brooklyn says:
Well,

The mosque will be a place of worship like any others,, by the way the city has more than 150 mosques. Only sheepshead bay does not has one, which force its Muslims to go to other places to pray and for services. Over all it will be built, and 4th of July just passed,
The day or Freedom,

The day of liberty...

the day of All Americans,

and who has no respect to this day and to this Country is not part of it....

Ignorance and hate is gone and Mr. Obama is a president , I heard ,,,lol

Keep the support for minorities and leave haters and racists alone to be burned by the this Country's laws and constitutions...

regards.
July 6, 2010, 7:38 am
Voice of Truth from American Fundistan says:
Our constitution can be a dreaful bother when it comes to religious discrimination.
July 6, 2010, 10:11 am
Alan from Sheepshead Bay says:
The bottom line for me is real estate values. If this mosque changes the demographics of the neighborhood
negatively... and real real estate values plumet, I will not
be a happy camper. I am not willing to take this risk. I say no to the building of this mosque.
July 6, 2010, 11:56 am
Read Dud-- to Alan from Sheepshead Bay` says:
Alan,

well the real Estate will not be changed negativly, In fact it will increase,,, Why

People will like to be relocated close to the mosque,,, and the value of the houses will goooo up high... lol

I mean anything close to the place ,, all of the other will not be changed,, adn I do nto think it changes the value of the properties all over the places where Mosques exists,,

take a tour next to any mosque and ask if it is up or down,
and I m sure you will change your mind to a big supporter of the project..
July 6, 2010, 12:54 pm
The Devil (The Leader) from Sheeple-heads bay says:
Welcome to Sheeple-heads Bay. Come and ENJOY our hate of any and all people. Come and enjoy our cheap and dirty Russian whores with their lack of values. Don't forget all about our religion of materialism. Yes you could be a part of this wonderful neighborhood of ignorance.

If you love being a piece of white trash from any part of the globe then this is the place for you!!!

Nothing says I want to go to hell like a good ole time in Sheeple-heads Bay. We have the cheapest tickets to the most horrific places in hell for you!!! You may ask yourself if you can afford it but you'll be happy to learn its all free just for being a terrible & hate filled person!

Call us at 666 for more details. Remember kids, living a godless secular life is a good way to screw yourselves! Hate today!

Sincerely,

The Devil
July 6, 2010, 1:12 pm
Lisanne! from Sheepshead Bay says:
Hey, don't knock the opposition to the mosque. It's brought together all sorts of people that normally hate each other.

On some level, its rather amusing.
July 6, 2010, 5:53 pm
Lisanne! from Sheepshead Bay says:
Hey, don't knock the opposition to the mosque. It's brought together all sorts of people that normally hate each other.

On some level, its rather amusing. On another level, it's an embarrassment.
July 6, 2010, 5:56 pm
The Devil from Sheeple-heads Bay says:
Thank you Lisanne! Its nice to know that we can all have double standards. for example, we all say we love freedom but we want none for the Muslims. Those dirty Muslims!!!

I love to turn the victims into the villains!!! What can I say? its just what I do. I love to know that the hate that i put into all of your hearts could be used to hate collectively by hateful degenerates.

See you all in hell very soon!!! Don't forget to watch my corporate media clowns for your misinformation. Fox news and CNN ARE YOUR FRIENDS!
July 6, 2010, 6:26 pm
Devil #2 from Sheepshead Bay says:
hOOOOOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOOOHOOO

Devil,,

lets go,,

you are the man,,

But do you think this a good idea to challenge Muslims,,
You do not know where they come from,,
it is better to stay away ,,

No no no no

I'm not with you,, I scare to be even seen by them,,
I know them they really crazy,, I think we as devils to stay away,,,

I'm out of it,,,,
July 6, 2010, 7:18 pm
The Devil from Sheeple-head Bay says:
Challenge Muslims? I do not have a problem with my Muslim neighbors. I only challenge stupidity...

Sometimes sarcasm is the only way people can open their eyes to bigotry. I want to change peoples minds. Just because their Islamic culture is different than mine does not mean i dehumanize them and hate them. Everyone else has the right to build any sort of religious place but people are refusing these poor and innocent Muslim citizens. its anti-American to treat these people like second class citizens.
July 6, 2010, 7:37 pm
greg from kensington says:
Just go to place at McDonald str. and CHURCH av. You will hear mulla's pray 5 times a day via loudspeakers. During 8 years neihborhood was changed completely.
July 8, 2010, 9:11 pm
to greg says:
So you hate American Muslims worshiping in the way that they please?

If you were the minority you would be hurt that such a large amount of people hate you simply because they don't know you.

take time to learn who we as muslims are.
July 8, 2010, 10:50 pm
Shahjehan from Sheepshead Bay says:
"Is it peaceful to marry young girls, NO! It's called pedohilia."

Pedohilia? Learn your Islam, then learn to spell. Thats not what we do. Maybe your dad married your mom at six and you're angry. I would be too.

"Do we want so called "honor" killings which by the way is MURDER taking place in our backyard simply because the family deemed SHE shamed them."

As a Muslim Avenue U Boy who rolled with KHB I can testify that Anthony Cappucci and his boys made more honor killings on your block then Muslims in brooklyn ever did.

"Do we want these people chanting over and over again, Kill all Infidels in our backyards?"

What the hell are you talking about? You're saying that about us and I'm born and bred in Sheepshead Bay idiot, never said that. I went to my boys Bar Mitzvah, make movies here and live here. BISMILLAH. This Mosque will clear the Russian Prostitutes out and purge the wombats from the blockm particularly that house of crystal meth heads on Z and Sheepshead Bay road.
July 12, 2010, 1:28 am
Alex from Sheepsheadsbay says:
Naive and kind-hearted Americans are being duped into thinking that Islam is a religion of peace - nothing could be further from the truth. Islam's goal is conversation of the total world population either by "sword" or word. In fact, Quran condones forcefull conversion and allows for Muslims to lie to infidels if it would help in conversion. Islam is a religion of death and subjugation that gives birth to intellectual zombies who extol death, in fact seek death to receive the final reward. Muslims are parasites who invade the host and feed on it until nothing is left but more parasites. Those of you, the so called tolerant people, who mock the Sheepshead Bay residents for their courageous quest to stop the spread of this virus, are useful idiots who will not be spared when the time comes - your choice, like the choice presented to the peoples conquered by Muslims in the past will be a beheading or to take up the banner of Muhamed.
July 28, 2010, 9:29 pm
Saracen from Sheepsheadsbay says:
Alex, you are clearly ignorant of Islam and your comments are proof the only things you've read about the Quran you got from neo-Nazi or other racist sites. None of what you are claiming has ANY basis in the Qur'an. It does not exist anywhere within it. In fact, the Qur'an is the best proof AGAINST you! But since you brought it up, I would suggest you take another look at the Bible (specifically the Old Testament, but also parts of the New Testament) and compare which book contains more hate, mayhem, intolerance and overall wanton violence. I promise you it is not the one you think it is!
Sept. 8, 2010, 2:06 am

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