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North Brooklynites are demanding a reduction in street cleaning — and with it a cut in the number of days that drivers must shuffle their cars due to alternate-side parking regulations.

Williamsburg and Greenpoint’s Community Board 1 has called on the city to decrease the frequency of street cleaning from four days per week to two days per week on streets deemed “acceptably clean,” and shorten the amount of time that drivers can be ticketed for parking on the wrong side of the street on dreaded alternate-side days.

In areas where four-day-per-week street cleaning would continue, the board wants the city to reduce the amount of time that car owners can be ticketed from 90 minutes to 30 minutes.

“In some areas, the current rules have become onerous and unnecessary — wasting residents’ time and patience, as well as taxpayer dollars,” the board wrote to Department of Sanitation Commissioner John Doherty on June 9.

“A good portion of our community board does not require four-day-a-week street cleaning, and parking regulations should be changed to reflect that,” the statement continued.

City statistics back up the claim.

Over the past four years, the percentage of “acceptably clean streets” in North Brooklyn has steadily increased from 83.7 percent in 2004 to 93.8 percent in 2008.

The neighborhood group urged the city to “shift resources from overly clean” parts of Williamsburg and Greenpoint to dirtier areas in North Brooklyn that still require four-day-per-week street cleaning — but that could put the entire proposal in the trash.

In the past, the Department of Sanitation has only lessened street cleaning throughout entire community boards — not specific portions of them.

For its part, the city told The Brooklyn Paper that it was considering CB1’s proposal.

“We are aware of the request and we are reviewing their letter,” said Sanitation spokeswoman Kathy Dawkins.

Supporters say that reduced street-cleaning hours will save taxpayer dollars.

“It also saves citizens from headaches because it means that they won’t have to move their car four times a week unnecessar­ily,” said Evan Thies, a City Council candidate who is also the chairman of CB1’s Environmental Protection and Solid Waste Management Committee.

Williamsburg and Greenpoint aren’t the first neighborhoods to request reductions in street cleaning.

Last month, Fort Greene and Clinton Hill joined Park Slope, Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, Gowanus, and Red Hook in receiving reductions in street cleaning — as well as a lengthy parking holiday without any alternate-side regulations while the city updates signage.

Updated 5:13 pm, July 9, 2018: Story was updated to add more quotes and context.
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Reasonable discourse

Bri from Greenpoint says:
North Greenpoint is dirty, too many idiots living their drop trash on the ground without thinking. As a car owner, it is a hassle moving. But I'd rather the streets be kept at least reasonably clean. And parking wouldn't be such a hassle if CB1 stood up and stopped the now-continual street closings in north Greenpoint due to TV & movie production in the area.
June 22, 2009, 9:04 am
Jim from Wburg says:
It's too bad that greedy drivers -- who already get to use public space to store their property for FREE -- now want the city to make the streets less clean for everyone else just so the greedy, lazy drivers don't have to do a little bit of work for their FREE use of public space.
June 22, 2009, 9:36 am
Eric from Greenpoint says:
Yeah why do you think CB1 scores so well in street cleanliness? Because they clean the streets, that's like saying you don't need to eat well anymore because you cholesterol is good.
June 22, 2009, 10:49 am
david from greenpoint says:
I dont know where in Williamsburg/Greenpoint these people are living but they are FAR from clean. I live near McCarren park and its always full of garbage,broken bottles and dog crap.
June 22, 2009, 3 pm
Niccolo from Carrol Gardens says:
This is a "be careful what you ask for" and also a "law of unintended consequences" story as much as anything else. In my neighborhood when they went down to two days from four it became much much harder to find parking spaces. With the four times a week shuffle I always got a spot in front of my house. Now I am usually a block an a half or two blocks away. No big deal really but for the people who think it is going to sweeten their parking experience, for whatever that is worth, they are going to be sadly disappointed.
June 22, 2009, 7:15 pm
Richard from Greenpoint says:
When I lived up the street from McCarren Park on Lorimer Street, many of my neighbors made it their mission to hoarde the paking spaces closest to their homes. A good portion of those neighbors were seniors who only ever started their cars to comply with alternate side parking rules. In additon there were those savy divers who would communte by car into Gpoint and WBurg and then hop on the subway to work. The city needs to discourage needless driving altogether. I would avocate for residential parking permits in addition to opening park and ride facilities, both of which would generate revenue.
June 24, 2009, 11:32 am
John from Williamsburg says:
I hate the street cleaning. I've seen them wiz down the streets in the morning, and not even clean and lower the brushes on the truck, just driving over the area where cars are not parked.

Street cleaning and metro police ticketers are city jobs designed to employ incompetent morons and have them generate ticket revenue(leaches), instead of just collecting welfare, which is what these people would be doing without those pointless jobs.
June 24, 2009, 5:12 pm
Chris from Williamsburg/Gpt says:
Sometimes they don't sweep when they're supposed to, which leaves the streets strewn with litter.
June 26, 2009, 2:32 pm
Matt from Bay Ridge says:
I can't believe that any neighborhood would have street cleaning 4 times a week!?!?!? That is ludicrous. One day a week on each side is MORE than enough. People should not have to move their cars that many times, and those people out there who are against drivers can go F themselves! just cause you can't afford a car doesn't mean that I should have to spend all my time moving mine around.
Oct. 6, 2010, 10:08 pm
Jew hater from Willamsburg says:
WillIamsburg BROOKLYN is so dirty because mostly Hassidic JEWS live there and own most of the property there and let's face it JEWS especially the Hassidic's are disgusting filthy people. They say cleanliness is Godliness but tbe JEWS religion is money
Jan. 27, 2017, 5:36 pm

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