MTA vows to figure out what the ‘F’ is going on

The Brooklyn Paper
Share on TwitterTweet
Share on Facebook

Don’t miss our updates:

We all know that something is wrong with the F train — but soon we’re going to know exactly what.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority has begun a full performance review of Brownstone Brooklyn’s underground lifeline after repeated complaints that the train’s name was actually the grade that most riders would give it.

The “performance and infrastruc­ture” review, which goes beyond the agency’s normal oversight of the Coney Island to Queens line, came after state Sen. Daniel Squadron (D–Brooklyn Heights) cornered the MTA’s Albany-based lobbyist and demanded action.

“I have been getting increasing complaints from my constituents and, no less important, my fiancee,” Squadron told The Brooklyn Paper. “So I asked the MTA to do a full review, and they agreed.

“There was definitely a sense in March and April, judging from the e-mails to our office, that something was wrong,” Squadron added. “When I brought it up to the MTA, they ... agreed. I’m happy that they’re being responsive.”

Riders, of course, were a bit less forgiving.

“I call it the ‘If’ train, not the ‘F’ train,” added rider Alex Covelesky. “The platform is always crowded.”

MTA spokeswoman Deirdre Parker told The Brooklyn Paper that the transit agency will provide Squadron with the results of the review within two weeks.

“Our top people from different units will get together and respond to the senator’s concerns,” she said.

Updated 5:13 pm, July 9, 2018: Story was updated to include a comment from the MTA, though the agency missed our Acela-like online deadline.
Today’s news:
Share on TwitterTweet
Share on Facebook

Don’t miss our updates:

Reasonable discourse

Rhywun from Bay Ridge says:
Can they figure out what the F is wrong with the R train while they're at it? Both were tied for 13th place in the last Straphangers report card. The F is hardly alone when it comes to suck.
June 16, 2009, 9:05 am
-F-riders from BKLYN says:
The Prob with the F line is its RIDERS, They are rude and obnoxious and feel the train has to wait while the stroll their slow butts threw the door. Then have the audacity to hold the door till it breaks. Train delays are constant because the riders have no respect for the train, they are always finding a way to make it stay in the station an extra 30 sec to a min, when compounded that is a 15-20 min delay by the time it reaches jay street and then Manhattan. If you want better train service wake up earlier and don't try catching it at last second and jamming your purse in the door to hold it open. Its like this line is full of a bunch of stoners that are constantly late to everything.
June 16, 2009, 9:49 am
Shrute from Kensington says:
Holier than thou aside- I agree with the basis of the post above. Although I refrain from casting blame on strangers from a cowardly medium such as this. I do think commuters bare the blunt of the blame.

PS- its amusing to see temporary transplants take the totalitarian position towards their native neighbors. Please- say something in person we don't really bite.
June 16, 2009, 10:14 am
David from Brooklyn Heights says:
What is wrong is that the F trains are insanely crowded during rush hours while the V sails half empty through Manhattan. This leads to situations where the trains can't get into or out of stations quickly because of the added time it takes to discharge and take on passengers. I would think they could solve some of their crowding problem by fixing the lower level at Bergen street and using that as the terminus for the V. That would allow people using the Jay Street transfer point to use either the F or V, which is a sizable number. Even better would be to continue the V to Prospect Park or Church Avenue.
June 16, 2009, 11:15 am
Eric McClure from Park Slope says:
Whatever the investigation finds, it's unlikely the MTA will be able to fix it -- since they're fixing to let Bruce Ratner have an 80% discount on his down payment for the Vanderbilt Yard (which they've already marked down for him by more than 50%).
June 16, 2009, 11:16 am
Classonian from Clinton Hills says:
David from BH has nailed it! Open your eyes MTA! Extend the V to Jay Street!
June 16, 2009, 11:30 am
Ben from Park Slope says:
Classonian: Why stop at Jay St.? Extend it out to Church Ave. The F and G don't run nearly frequently enough to overcrowd the line. It can take another few trains, and the southern reaches of the Culver Line would stand to benefit greatly.
June 16, 2009, 4:52 pm
A O from BKLYN says:
The best recourse for the V would be to run it on the A and C line from West 4 th to Jay St then back on the F to Church ave. This way those that need to get to wall st and downtown manhattan don't even need to transfer and it would alleviate the demand for the F and the huge stampede @ jay st from the F to the A.

Now that's using your Noggin!
June 16, 2009, 5:54 pm
Mike Patterson from Prospect Heights says:
So, let me see if I've gotten this straight.
The the Academy of Science (a.k.a) the MTA is going to spend time and taxpayer money to figure out that the F train problems can be solved if they add more cars to ease overcrowding, run the trains on time and make sure the air conditioners work? The excitment mounts.
June 17, 2009, 9:02 am
trace from park slope says:
I love the F. But I live in California...
June 17, 2009, 1:41 pm
Christian from Clinton Hill says:
I lived in Park Slope for several years. I attend school in Boston, and am working in Los Angeles for the summer.

The F train is easily one of the better trains in the system. Light years ahead of most trains in Boston, and certainly far ahead of service in most other American cities.
Ofcourse the service can be better. There is over-crowding (duh.. this is New York), but this nonsense about the F train being terrible, is just silly. New Yorkers tend to complain very easily, and sometimes unfairly. While I think the NYC transit system (including the F) could use a general upgrade, I strongly disagree that the "F" deserves and "F" for performance.
Leave New York, and get some perspective....
June 17, 2009, 7:50 pm
Ed from Baysdie says:
F train sucks F train need to back 53 street line
July 6, 2014, 6:39 pm

Comments closed.

First name
Last name
Your neighborhood
Email address
Daytime phone

Your letter must be signed and include all of the information requested above. (Only your name and neighborhood are published with the letter.) Letters should be as brief as possible; while they may discuss any topic of interest to our readers, priority will be given to letters that relate to stories covered by The Brooklyn Paper.

Letters will be edited at the sole discretion of the editor, may be published in whole or part in any media, and upon publication become the property of The Brooklyn Paper. The earlier in the week you send your letter, the better.

Keep it local!

Stay in touch with your community. Subscribe to our free newsletter: